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What's Donald Trump Said About Guns And Gun Control?
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Here's another example of what a wassock Trump is....he used to be against the ownership of assault weapons, but now he advocates the carrying of weapons into night clubs by everybody. Hundreds of people have been injured or killed recently in America, but he still wants to hang on to that lovely dosh that the NRA gives him and other Republicans, rather than actually do something useful.
Let ABs Trumpettes defend him now.
Here's another example of what a wassock Trump is....he used to be against the ownership of assault weapons, but now he advocates the carrying of weapons into night clubs by everybody. Hundreds of people have been injured or killed recently in America, but he still wants to hang on to that lovely dosh that the NRA gives him and other Republicans, rather than actually do something useful.
Let ABs Trumpettes defend him now.
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That's a relief, I thought I was going senile in my old age...
I am not sure that trying to argue about what previous presidents have and haven't done is worth doing. The reasons Americans don't have any meaningful gun control go far beyond what presidents think about it. Obama clearly was desperate to try and get something -- anything -- through, but was unable to pass legislation because Congress was opposed and so was restricted to minor Executive Orders on the subject (several of which have since been rescinded by Trump).
It's therefore hardly Trump's fault personally that Gun Control is not happening right now. On the other hand, what he thinks about it does matter because he leads the party in control of both Houses of Congress and, if he wished, could try to use this position of strength as a platform for pushing some form of gun control legislation through. Of course even then he might still fail -- most House Republicans would block it -- but that he doesn't even try (and, as noted, has if anything taken gun controls backwards in the last year) is still significant.
In the end the US system (and the 2nd Amendment) is what stands in the way. It would probably take a president who commanded a supermajority in both Houses of Congress, as well as one who'd had the time needed to stack the Supreme Court with Liberal judges, *and* a president whose party was also in control of the two-thirds of the state legislatures, in order to turn things around meaningfully. Such a dramatic, and frankly undemocratic, control for one party simply isn't going to happen -- certainly not for gun control advocates, at any rate.
I am not sure that trying to argue about what previous presidents have and haven't done is worth doing. The reasons Americans don't have any meaningful gun control go far beyond what presidents think about it. Obama clearly was desperate to try and get something -- anything -- through, but was unable to pass legislation because Congress was opposed and so was restricted to minor Executive Orders on the subject (several of which have since been rescinded by Trump).
It's therefore hardly Trump's fault personally that Gun Control is not happening right now. On the other hand, what he thinks about it does matter because he leads the party in control of both Houses of Congress and, if he wished, could try to use this position of strength as a platform for pushing some form of gun control legislation through. Of course even then he might still fail -- most House Republicans would block it -- but that he doesn't even try (and, as noted, has if anything taken gun controls backwards in the last year) is still significant.
In the end the US system (and the 2nd Amendment) is what stands in the way. It would probably take a president who commanded a supermajority in both Houses of Congress, as well as one who'd had the time needed to stack the Supreme Court with Liberal judges, *and* a president whose party was also in control of the two-thirds of the state legislatures, in order to turn things around meaningfully. Such a dramatic, and frankly undemocratic, control for one party simply isn't going to happen -- certainly not for gun control advocates, at any rate.
I didn't miss your point Prudie. Notice the cowardly bstards never turn up at a rifle range where everyone is armed? Cars are harmless when they are parked up and locked. Perhaps we will have to adopt autonomous vehicles, because of one or two psychos who use them to inflict carnage and commit atrocities.
Mikey - as you've been very active on this thread (it is yours after all), it's possible, but unlikely, that you didn't see the thread showing COB in an unfavourable light, and therefore I have helpfully provided a link to the thread below. I eagerly await your thoughts.
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