Do Da Math

[spathiphyllum]

If you have a family holiday in the EU it will cost £28 for a family of 4 for the travel registration. Now the EHIC card will be gone.. Travel insurance will be around £15... That's £88 more. Most families don't even contribute this much annually towards our current EU contribution.

So is this what was voted for?

LOL.

[mushroom25]

//personal opinion.//

maybe, but its opinion based on documented precedent, and regularly campaigned by bodies such as ABTA.
https://www.abta.com/tips-and-advice/planning-and-booking-a-holiday/travel-insurance

[spathiphyllum]

you have to be qualified to use a foodbank.. and if you don't think their is a strain on our nurses and NHS then i would like you to tell me where you've buried your head for the past 3 years.

[spathiphyllum]

Sorry mushroom cannie find the quote "your stupid if you don’t take out travel insurance".

[Rockrose]

It’s ok mushroom I am sure spaths family would set up a go fund me page to pay for his medical care

[spathiphyllum]

My medical care would be free, because of my EHIC card. But worst case scenario, i'm sure they'd just fly me back to the UK.

[mushroom25]

//Sorry mushroom cannie find the quote "your stupid if you don’t take out travel insurance". //

I think you'll find it was another poster who said that, not me. nevertheless, the wording in the ABTA link, ie "Going on holiday without travel insurance is a high risk...." pretty much amounts to the same thing.

[THECORBYLOON]

"The EHIC is not an alternative to travel insurance. It will not cover any private medical healthcare or costs, such as mountain rescue in ski resorts, being flown back to the UK, or lost or stolen property. It is also not valid on cruises."

[spathiphyllum]

my comment "personal opinion." was to the statement "your stupid if you don’t take out travel insurance"..


also.. you're*

[spathiphyllum]

TCL, i know, but i don't do private, and i'd never go somewhere to try use my ehic for private healthcare

"the EHIC will cover: Any medical treatment that becomes necessary during your stay because of either illness or an accident. The card gives access to reduced-cost or free medical treatment from state healthcare providers. ... It includes the provision of oxygen, renal dialysis and routine medical care."

[Peter Pedant]

stupidity and travel insurance
some of us are uninsurable
no point in taking out insurance even with full information as I will never get covered ...

[Arrods]

"If i die i’m sure i won’t give a damn, cremate me."

OK Spath. Here's my experience. OH broke her leg in Portugal. EHIC paid for medical treatment (except her crutches). Insurance paid for my 3 week stay in a nearby hotel, flying out a nurse to accompany her back and paying for 8 seats on a scheduled flight to get her, the nurse and myself home. Risk it if you like.

[spathiphyllum]

yep, insurance is better for the OH of the situation for hotels etc.. very true.

[THECORBYLOON]

Regardless of whether there's an OH involved or no, the EHIC wouldn't cover the flight home if special medical care were required whilst flying.

[Old_Geezer]

Who cares. You'll get your nation back. And the rest sorts itself out in good time. Lucky you for being able to afford to holiday, let alone abroad. Stay at home and reduce aircraft pollution, and feel smug.

[LadyCG]

As a staunch Brexiteer, I'll be happy to pay my travel costs next year for my trips to Crete, Munich and Krakow.

[Ryzen]

A friends baby was taken ill in Barcelona and considered too ill to return to the UK..friend and wife had to stay for 3 extra weeks and arrange new return flights..total cost..£3900. + loss of earnings.
The arrogance of ignorance can come at a price.

[Peter Pedant]

//"If i die i’m sure i won’t give a damn, cremate me."
OK Spath. Here's my experience. OH broke her leg in Portugal...... //

o mi God they didnt cremate her when she was still alive did they? a modern sort of auto-da-fe ?

[just trying to lighten a bogged down discussion]

[Gizmonster]

I don't understand ..... your figures:

//// we give the EU abouttt 13 billion a year?

66.1 million people... Take a rough million off. That's 0.00395106961 U.S. dollars. Which is 0.0031 Pound sterling ////

By my calculations, each person contributes roughly £197 per year to the EU (13 000 000 000/66 100 000) .... yea I know this isn't factual - it's an average figure.
An extra £88 per family for a holiday (your figures) ....

and ....

//// Most families don't even contribute this much annually towards our current EU contribution. /////

4 x £197 = £788 .... which is a lot more than your £88.

Can you explain please, 'cos I'm confused .....

[fiction-factory]

I think spath sort of acknowledged to me earlier that he may have divided the smaller figure by the larger figure rather than the larger by the smaller- so was slightly out (by a factor of millions)

[New Judge]

Where have I been all day? I've only just encountered this, so apologies if some of my points have already been made.

Number One: “If you have a family holiday in the EU it will cost £28 for a family of 4 for the travel registration.”

Your calculations are flawed. The proposed (note, “proposed”) levy for the travel permit is around £7 for three years, so about £2 per person per year for any number of trips.

Number two: “Now the EHIC card will be gone.. Travel insurance will be around £15.

The EHIC is not a substitute for travel insurance. It is only used to secure emergency medical treatment. It does not cover cancellation, long term care that may be necessary as a result of an illness or accident abroad, specialist transport or repatriation in the event of illness, injury or death whilst abroad. Anybody travelling to Europe simply on the strength of an EHIC card alone is extremely foolish. As if to prove it:

“Of course i'd get insurance for skiing, but that's different. Spain? Nah. I don't do private anyway.”

"My medical care would be free, because of my EHIC card. But worst case scenario, i'm sure they'd just fly me back to the UK."

I wonder who “they” are. I rest my case.

Number Three: That's £88 more. Most families don't even contribute this much annually towards our current EU contribution.

Assuming there are 25m families in the UK, their average contribution is around £400. They may not pay it personally but that’s how much is removed from the UK economy.

Number Four: “So is this what was voted for?”

The EU has decided that this is how it will treat most non-EU member countries. I want the UK to be treated as a non-EU member country so, yes, it is what I voted for.

Number Five: 66.1 million people... Take a rough million off. That's 0.00395106961 U.S. dollars. Which is 0.0031 Pound sterling

I haven’t a clue what you’re on about but £13bn paid by 61m people means they pay £213 each.

A bit of research (and lessons in arithmetic) required, I think.