Yet Another Senseless Knife Crime

[Ken4155]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/girl-15-stabbed-to-death-on-bus-as-she-headed-to-school/ar-AA1hkrvM?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e6a44197a5074693a31bb52060b87

 

My heart bleeds for the girl and her parents.

 

[Lie-in King]

Retrocop - on the whole, I agree with you.  We were more frightened of our parents' reaction should they be told about the slightest misdemeanour by the school - or Gods forbid, the police.

That "fear" has to my mind certainly been hamstrung by what - on occasion - feels like a relentless march by authorities not to upset anyone. 

It's an impossible task, I know, but the availabilty of edged weapons needs to be looked at somehow, along with the mandatory checking of bags by parents & by staff (not necessarily teachers) at school gates.

I have no real, feasible answers (those I think of would upset too many folk) & can only hope for a return of common sense amongst our youngsters. 

Fat chance. 😞

[Canary42]

In our young days, (to the tune of Glory Glory Hallelujah) we sang :-

 

Glory glory hallelujah, Teacher hit me with the ruler, Then Father hit me with his walking stick, but I ain't gonna cry no more.

Nowadays, Father more likely to chastise the Teacher - such is progress.

[fender62]

feral kids teens with no fear of authority, let alone respect for anyone, errant parent probably, where is the dad or dads. i think it's just going to get worse, almost a total breakdown of law and order in cities a cork against the tide, i think the death penalty would make a slight dent if done en-mass to murderers already banged up, with a daily bulletin on executions and enforced deportations, sounds harsh, but got a better answer errr build more prisons mmm erm more money.

[bazwillrun]

Hate to be pedantic, but it wasnt any old knife it was a machete...

[Togo]

The snippets of info that are inevitably leaking out appear to be that the victim turned down an offer of flowers, or similar, from a male from a different school. The parents of the victim are both black and the school attended by the victim is a private school with fees of about £20k a year.  What are we becoming in the UK? Poor child. 

[Hopkirk]

I'm not convinced that strong penalties are actually a deterrent.

[anneasquith]

Who goes to school with a foot long knife,, and why ?

[Neveracrossword]

Togo, the reports in today's papers seem to say that the victim wasn't the person, the former girlfriend, wo'd refused the flowers. She was, apparently, a friend of the girlfriend and intervened when the argument got heated.

[nicebloke1]

I've seen many a post on here slating parents off for running their kids to school and back in their cars / Chelsea tractors. You don't think that this could be the main reason do you. But I dare say someone will say it could have happened in school.

[anneasquith]

^^^ a very good point .

[nicebloke1]

Thks anne.

[barry1010]

When I was at school decades ago a boy stabbed himself when he fell down the stairs with a knife in his pocket.

I agree with tough sentencing for carrying a weapon, even for first time offenders.

All of my family, including the grandchildren, feel safe out and about, thankfully 

[nicebloke1]

Yep, first offender, hit them real hard, so the message hits home to the rest of the idiots who carry them, getting caught carrying for the first time, can lead to a first time murder.

[anneasquith]

Feral children roaming the streets. 
1) stop and search.

2) body and belongings search before going into public buildings.

[fender62]

norman brennan and ken hines debate, listen to mr brennans reply..

https://www.gbnews.com/presenters/nigel-farage/2023-09-28

[webbo3]

And another one.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/woman-arrested-after-man-stabbed-8793106