Women being dependent on me?.

[Lonnie]

I've just put this on as a good discussion point, is it true, Men and women, your views, without starting a war. lol.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/a rticle.html?in_article_id=420513&in_page_id=18 79

[MrBen5]

Hmmm, Very well Dr Nick Neave.
See, it is scientifically proven...

[noxlumos]

To a certain extent I think it's true. My first wife was completely like that, clingy, dependant, money and power orientated nightmare. However my second wife could not be less like that. She doesn't earn as much as I do now, but she earned considerably more when we first got together and couldn't have cared less either way. She's not jealous, not clingy and happy to go off and do her own thing and for me to do mine workwise. She happily accepted my children and treats them as her own and is very independant and completely her own person. She was a capable single parent for 11 years before we got together and I was without funds of any sort when we started living together, so I think it's very true for some women and I think others have either evolved out of it, or reasoned themselves out of it. I do think it's a bit general though.

[joko]

huge generalisations!

there are still many women who are that way, and live in the old fashioned stereotype role - but many many don't

and all the worrying that he claims women do - men do it too!

I myself have been on the receiving end of ridiculous jealous and possesive men (not for long i might add) - but this all works both ways.

i think what he has written has some interesting points but his tone and style just don't work, and leave me thinking he is just a mysoginist who feels his masculinty has been threatened. quite sad really

[ummmm]

joko are you a woman.....I always thought you was a bloke

[joby1]

Sorry, didnt read the article, just the question. I am not dependant on my male partner as I have qualifications and a decent job, although I am on a career break until my youngest goes to school full time. (sept Hoorah!)

I do value his male opinion (even when hes wrong! :-) ) , But, I could defo survive without him, not sure the kids would tho.

[pie+mash]

How true regarding women wanting to bed powerful men!

It always baffled me when Jackie Kennedy married Aristotle, after having been wed to JFK, but having been told that it was clearly what lay behind the ugly face of Onassis, namely his power in the shipping industry etc, that I came to realise how true we see more in a man than what his looks might outwardly display. I would rather be wooed by some ugly industrialist, than the good looking hunk selling matches on the street corner!

That is not to say who I will/would/did fall in love with though, that is definitely a different thing altogether.

[scruffscat]

The father of my kids is a complete tit, and when i left him iwas perfectly happy and self supportive for years.I also agree that, while there probly is some women like this,and also some men too,it is a huge generalisation.In this day and age i would like too think that people of both sexes respect each other more than our hairy ancestors.

[Lonnie]

Thanks for your answers, First, sorry for the spelling mistake in the post, looks good though.

As has already been said, in the past, and to certain women today, its still true, but as time goes on, especially in the West, women in general, will never go back to the submissive role they had in the past.

I think the real problem, is men accepting this, because it means a complete role change. I don't mean swapping roles, but sharing duties more, (housework, looking after children etc), there are some that do this, but for the majority of men, it comes hard, don't know how long it'll take, but it can happen.

[sophieb]

I have been on my own with 2 kids for the last 8 years after their father left and apart from monthly child support i have managed perfectly well without depending on a man(or anyone else for that matter)I am on the final stretch of an English degree and have worked to put myself through it! Everything i own was bought by me. I'm not interested in a man for his income or social status-one that can put a toilet seat down and be home before sun up would be great! Everything else would be a bonus!!!

[NH]

Funny how a distinctly conservative piece advocating the "traditional family" turns up in the Mail.

And call me naive, but I think a man who finds a wonderfully attractive woman is clearly pretty stupid if he takes her for granted.

Official classification: Mailaganda.

[lizzierose]

most of my men folk, I have felt the other way around. and being from a younger generation find it hard to see where such a generalisation comes from. I've never been financially or emotionally dependent on a man. And would never want to be. I've had the odd moment of clinginess, and I ma very aware when i do this and cringe inwardly afterwards. but feel iahve experienced clinginess from the other side a lot more. I'm surprised when women especially of my own age (early twenties) still talk about finding a man with a good job to look after them, to pull their own weight maybe, but so they can hang around being a lady what lunches i find pathetic.