barking dog

[burchgirl07]

My dog barks at every little noise. I'm thinking of buying a shock collar for him, Has anyone ever used one on there animal? It says it won't hurt them, but i don't want to take that chance I mean I love my Dog.

[craigiep]

These days you do not need a shock (electric) collar. Far more humane, and just as effective, is a spray collar. Also operated by remote control from an amazing distance, it fires a harmless jet of water (flavoiured/scented if you like) on to the chin of the dog, and immediately checks its behaviour. I've used these on both my dogs and the results have been excellent. Here is a link to one:
http://www.companyofanimals.co.uk/masterplus.p hp

[lankeela]

Please do not use a shock collar. There is a campaign at the moment to get them banned together with other electric dog training devices (don't ask!). A government minister and the kennel club have been trying to get this brought up in the next parliament.

They are cruel and in many cases frighten the dogs so much that they are even more aggressive or badly behaved.
They took some to the political party conferences and got MPs to try them on their arms - they all agreed to support the call for a ban as they were so painful.

[garner]

I agree with lankeela, please dont use one.

[poopy]

Im sorry but when enough is enough a shock collar will do the trick. I got one for my pooch (my little noisy angel).

There are different settings high, low & medium. And it doesnt shock straight away 1st it bips if the dog barks again within 20 seconds it will give a little tingle. So it mostly just bips and she knows not to bark. Infact once shocked she knows not to make a sound again as she was barking constantly at everything & the neighbours were complaining. It doesnt not hurt the dog in any way shape or form (unless you have set the zapper on high of course)

[gelda]

Poopy, how do you know it doesn't hurt the dog, have you asked it???

[Annlinda]

Poopy how could you even consider using a shock collar. You dont deserve to own a dog.Have you tried putting it round your neck and zapping it every time you make an umwelcome noise. I am in shock that any contributor who calls themselves an animal lover could even consider using one.
Welcome back lankeela.

[divegirl]

Hi burchgirl, as you can see we're quite an opinionated little bunch on here....lol. I hope this has answered your question. Here's a site that shows the alternatives, I've never used any of these myself so I can't really make any recomendations, but I would have to agree with the others about not using the shock device.

http://www.britishdog.net/antibark.htm

Lisa x

[lankeela]

Press release from the KC:

Political Progress To Ban Electric Shock Collars
14-Dec-06

The pace is gathering in the world of politics for a ban on electric shock collars as the Kennel Club�s most prominent current campaign reaches a new high.

Labour MP for Portsmouth North, Sarah McCarthy-Fry, has readily taken up the opportunity to propose a ban on electric shock training devices since recently being approached by the Kennel Club. By tabling it in a Private Member�s Bill, it has now been put high on the political agenda for this Parliamentary session.

Sarah McCarthy-Fry�s decision to introduce the subject of the cruelty of electric shock collars and propose it in a Private Member�s Bill entitled �Electric Shock Training Devices Bill� is a milestone in the campaign. Each year a ballot is held at the start of the session and the twenty MPs whose names come out top are allowed to introduce legislation on a subject of their choice. Her support is invaluable, "I have a seven year old dog called Dudley. He is a cross between a Jack Russell Terrier and a Lancashire Heeler. I cannot imagine using an electric shock collar on him. These collars are barbaric; they train dogs to respond out of fear rather than a natural willingness to behave and are entirely unnecessary. Considering the vast array of positive training methods that exist, it seems to me that there is absolutely no need to use an electric shock collar and I hope Members of Parliament on all sides will support my Bill and introduce a ban."

The Kennel Club is now eagerly awaiting the outcome of the Private Member�s Bill. This political positioning will give the proposal for a ban the best chance of gaining further strong cross party support, increasing its chance of becoming law.

[lankeela]

Cont'd

Further strengthening the Bill�s popularity and attention is the co-sponsorship of other MPs including Conservative MPs - Tony Baldry MP for Banbury, Roger Gale MP for North Thanet, and John Whittingdale MP for Maldon & Chelmsford East as well as Liberal Democrat MP for Portsmouth South, Mike Hancock

Roger Gale MP said: �The Kennel Club demonstrated the electric shock collar training device at the Conservative Party Conference and it brought it home to me and my parliamentary colleagues who experienced its power, just how unpleasant these things really are.�

Caroline Kisko, Kennel Club Secretary: �The Kennel Club is delighted that Sarah McCarthy-Fry has agreed to put down her Bill on electric shock training devices and that this has cross party support. We hope that this will put further pressure on DEFRA to completely ban the sale and use of these cruel training devices.�

Notes

Private Members Bill � Individual Members of Parliament (sometimes referred to as Private Members), have the power to introduce their own legislation under the Private Member's Bill procedure.

The Bill does not include perimeter fencing, just training devices used on companion animals in the home or a device from which an animal cannot escape from.

The short title of the Bill is: �Electric Shock Training Devices�. The long title is: �a Bill to prohibit the sale, manufacture, hire, loan, importation or use of electric shock training devices; and for connected purposes

It is ordered to be read a Second time on Friday 2 February.

Sponsors of the Bill include: David Drew MP, Tony Baldry MP, Mike Hancock MP, Lyn Brown MP, Roger Gale MP, Diana Johnson MP, John Whittingdale MP, Lynda Waltho MP, David Anderson MP, Andrew Gwynne MP and Laura Moffat MP

[saxy_jag]

I have only one question to ask those who advocate shock collars: Would you use one on your child?

[kaylamay]

well, to put it simply, would you want to have a shock collar put around your neck and used? No you wouldn't. You dog will not appreciate it either. You have other options.
Mikala

[burchgirl07]

Thank everyone who answered my question about the collar! I will not use a shock collar!!! Maybe one that spray's water?

[lankeela]

Just as easy to use a spray bottle with water in it - much cheaper and just as effective, if used correctly (i.e. don't let the dog see where it is coming from).

[poopy]

Atcually to all you know it all's. My partner tried it on his voice box so I can confirm exactly how it feels. The collar we used worked on vibration (like the vibration on your mobile phone) and gave a tingle sensation not an electric shock - it is not an electric fence box as used for cattle & horses ya know.

Also are the government working on changing the �1000 noisy dog fines?? We got a complaint from the council about our dog so it was drastic measures in shutting the dog up or face a heafty fine? What would you have done?????

Would you like a water pistol in your face everytime you opened your gob???? Another alternative to a bark collar would be to fill a plastic bottle with hard peas & shake it nosily when the dog barks - but then again Im not sat in with my dog 24 hours a day!

[freak_unique]

burchgirl07 - nah i wouldnt use a shock collar i think its kinda cruel especially when the dog is just doing all he can do (bark) - maybe just some water spray instead? I think people are disgusting who use shock collars and shouldnt have a dog if they feel that strongly about them barking.

[Bigeye74]

Shock collars have their place but not in stopping barking. A good alternative to water is a can of compresed air (try PC world) more dogs dislike the sound.
As for putting a collar on a child, no need i can outrun any child. My dog could outrun me at the age of 20 weeks and with nowhere truly safe to walk her a collar was a good measure.