killers

[stokeace]

so the government has spent �13,000 on protecting the identities of little jamie bulgers killers.let their identities be known so hopefully they get their comeuppance i say.or better still they should have been hung no matter how old they were.they knew what they were doing.i feel so sorry for the family because justice was NOT done.

[smudge]

Phew - finished me ironing!

James/Jamie - whatever! Although our Grandson is & alway has been called James - never Jamie.

Fully agree with you chompu - I too compared their sentences with Mary Bell's. She spent from 1968-1980 in prison.

Yes sp - apart from the costs of their education, it would be nice for ex-prisoners to one day be in the position to reimburse the costs of their warm comfy time in prison, but I doubt that will ever happen.

Oh well, off to put my ironing away.....then feed the fish!

Have a nice evening!

[NJOK]

I'm not suggesting giving them an education as a present or because i want to cheer them up or make them feel special.

I'm suggesting it because it reduces crime and benefits society.

I couldn't really give two sh1ts if, say, an armed robber thinks he's getting good treatment during his sentence. I'm more concerned with whether he's then less likely to steal someone's pension book or crack a crowbar into a bank teller's head.

Sorry if that's me being a do-gooder.

[smudge]

Now, now, NJOK - who's getting het-up now?

Although I gather your last answer was in response to chompu!

[NJOK]

I like you better when you write to me in bold.

Have a lovely evening.

[smudge]

Ah, I didn't think you'd like that fact that someone else shared the same sentiments as me & some others on this thread NJOK! Very sad & shallow!

As the saying goes:

"If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen".

[smudge]

P.S. Have a lovely evening yourself! ;o}

[Goodsoulette]

This case mixes my emotions up beyond any other.

One part of me thinks if anyone can be rehabilitated then kids that murder are probably prime candidates. Then I think to commit such an horrendous crime at that age maybe you just have to have been born "bad".

I agree, no surprises here, whole heartedly with SP. Someone would go and murder these boys and really, that makes them no better than them.

Although, I hate to think of wither of these boys having their own family.

[ruby27]

Killing ie taking the life of another is in context. I personally subscribe to the view that all acts of violence are unacceptable and that violence by one should not be managed by a violent response. So if you harm someone that is abhorrent, so taking revenge either as the victim or as an avenger is another form of violence and again unacceptable.
But others do not share this view I realise.
However why is as a child killing a child so terribly wrong but killing a child as an act of vengeance ok?

[Le Chat]

Smudge - Just to let you know that I've just tuned into this question tonight (11.08pm) and I got exactly what you were trying to say from the word go. You were very clear and concise, so I've no clue how your words were not understood! Just thought I'd share that with you. Oh I so need to be in bed.Night night!

[sp1814]

If the whereabouts of Jamie Bulger's murderers were made known, someone would commit a crime or a series of crimes against them.

The police would then have to investigate these crimes, which, if their names had never been revealed, would never have happened.

Would you individually be happy to cough up for police time to investigate the crimes, plus the cost of court time?

Would you then compensate the dependents of whoever went to jail because they'd either been convicted of GBH, ABH or murder?

That's what we're talking about surely? There are associated costs to this that few people seem to think of.

We're not being wishy-washy do-gooders - just practical. By revealing their names, you're encouraging a form of anarchy. You just can't give people the instruments to take the law into their own hands.

(Incidentally, isn't it weird that 'do-gooder' has now become a term of abuse?)

[NJOK]

Don't do yourself down, smudge.

There's more than just chompu who agrees with you. From where I'm sittting, it looks like the majority on this site do.

"Ah, I didn't think you'd like that fact that someone else shared the same sentiments as me & some others on this thread NJOK! Very sad & shallow!"

Where did that little outburst come from? I love the fact we disagree. There'd be no debate otherwise would there?

[rabbitygirl]

The �13k spent on protecting the boys anonimity seems low and I am suspicious its more. But a lot of money will have been spent on holding and rehabilitating them over the years. I believe a child would respond better to punishment, treatment whatever, in detention, than an adult. These are the formative years after all. And I think they will be monitored for a very long time outside. Therefore, the chances of any reoffend by these 2 would be remote compared to adults rubber stamped released by supposed experts. These criminals often go on to commit exactly the same crime, to cries of 'well he seemed safe to us'.

[smudge]

Hi Le Chat - just popped back. Hope you're well & managed to have a nice sleep last night.

Thank you for your message - it's nice when people take the time to 'read' posts properly, rather than flicking over them, then make incorrect assumptions.

Have a lovely day. ;o}