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Tilbury Docks Illegal Immigrants
I have just listened to Channel 4 TV news. Apparently all surviving illegal immigrants have applied for Asylum in this country. No surprise there then is there? It is claimed,by a Sikh spokesman, who lives in Southall, that all the illegal refugees have relatives living in Southall and had probably told them that Great Britain was a "welcoming and accomodating country". For that you can interpret as "Great Britain is a soft touch who will supply you with all you ask for paid for by the generous British taxpayers". It was also stated that Afghanistan had become more stabilised and thus a legitimate exit visa was more difficult to come by and that is why they chose the ILLEGAL path !!!
So in the words of ymb.Can you lentil crunching leftie hand wringing Islington set justify their illegal entry into this country ?
In the words of one of their own Sikhs living in Southall..(A) They came to Great Britain because they already have relatives here. (B) They were probably told of our generous handouts to those who are NOT entitled to in the first place. (C ) As Afghanistan is becoming more stable it is more difficult to obtain a exit visa as they are not endangered and fleeing for their lives as persecuted people. It rather shoots out the water the theory that they must be desperate to risk their lives to better themselves in this country IMO. If they were that desperate ,due to persecution in Afghanistan, they would of been very glad to seek asylum in the first European country who would grant them safety and refuge regardless of family ties in this country. Incidentally. I have also learnt that an ambulance call out costs the taxpayer £221 each.These illegals had a fleet of them at their disposal. They got their health checks at great cost to the NHS now do as the Canary Isles do. Put them on a boat straight back where they came from and let them feel grateful that they were not sent back in a sealed container. Forget costly immigration asylum processing and appeals. Just send them back where they come from. Other European states can do it and then so can we.
So in the words of ymb.Can you lentil crunching leftie hand wringing Islington set justify their illegal entry into this country ?
In the words of one of their own Sikhs living in Southall..(A) They came to Great Britain because they already have relatives here. (B) They were probably told of our generous handouts to those who are NOT entitled to in the first place. (C ) As Afghanistan is becoming more stable it is more difficult to obtain a exit visa as they are not endangered and fleeing for their lives as persecuted people. It rather shoots out the water the theory that they must be desperate to risk their lives to better themselves in this country IMO. If they were that desperate ,due to persecution in Afghanistan, they would of been very glad to seek asylum in the first European country who would grant them safety and refuge regardless of family ties in this country. Incidentally. I have also learnt that an ambulance call out costs the taxpayer £221 each.These illegals had a fleet of them at their disposal. They got their health checks at great cost to the NHS now do as the Canary Isles do. Put them on a boat straight back where they came from and let them feel grateful that they were not sent back in a sealed container. Forget costly immigration asylum processing and appeals. Just send them back where they come from. Other European states can do it and then so can we.
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"I really hope that you never find yourselves in the position that you are so desperate that you bundle your family into a shipping container.." But they were not "so desperate". They were in Belgium, a member of the EU, a signatory to the ECHR and, when I last visited, a fairly agreeable place. Their desperation was not to escape oppression or torture - they'd...
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Khandro
I stated "dead of night".The house was pitch black.He heard them, he challenged them, he shot them. He was then later imprisoned. He did not know where he was going to hit them back or front. He was in fear of intruders unlawfully on his premises. It was not regarded as an Englishman's castle in this case was it?
I stated "dead of night".The house was pitch black.He heard them, he challenged them, he shot them. He was then later imprisoned. He did not know where he was going to hit them back or front. He was in fear of intruders unlawfully on his premises. It was not regarded as an Englishman's castle in this case was it?
I am not showing hatred to any one. So it is all happening in a city near you but you will only see one side of the coin won't you. Please don't lecture me about white English criminals. I put a few behind bars during my long career to protect the likes of the innocent and naive as you seem to portray yourselves. I did'nt differentiate. I carried out my duty with compassion,impartiality and integrity We have enough home grown villains. We certainly don't need illegally imported ones
ColinandJess
If you read my "tirade" as you call it, I would prefer to describe it as trying to inform the uninformed. If you were more worldly you may have noted that the first two shooting incidents I described had a total of three victims. All those victims were of coloured skin or ethnic. I suggested you save your pity for the victims which I do. Does that imply to you I have a hatred for coloured people and immigrants. I pity the victims of crime whatever the colour of their skin. It just so happens the the perpetrators of these crimes were ethnic or Easter European. I did not write the script of these events. The ethnicity of the criminals is a matter of record and fact.
If you read my "tirade" as you call it, I would prefer to describe it as trying to inform the uninformed. If you were more worldly you may have noted that the first two shooting incidents I described had a total of three victims. All those victims were of coloured skin or ethnic. I suggested you save your pity for the victims which I do. Does that imply to you I have a hatred for coloured people and immigrants. I pity the victims of crime whatever the colour of their skin. It just so happens the the perpetrators of these crimes were ethnic or Easter European. I did not write the script of these events. The ethnicity of the criminals is a matter of record and fact.
Sad as I am to say it I agree totally with you. They has to be a limit at some time surely? I know it sounds like the old cliché but I am not racist at all, however I simply cannot understand why the other European countries can get away with helping them to get to Britain when if they want asylum they should claim it in the first country they enter. Also, why do we have to give all the benefits when other EU countries don't. I simply don't understand it. Wish someone could explain.
PP
Colin and Jess live in a closeted little bubble in N.I. I am not sure if they know where Ferguson Missouri is. May be their labradors can be trained as guide dogs and steer them into the real world.
As for your earlier Geography lesson re land locked Afghanistan. Containers are carried on lorries and trains in most countries in the world and conveyed to a container port where they are lifted on overhead gantrys onto container ships where they are conveyed to other ports in the world. But I am certainly not suggesting they entered the container in Kabul otherwise they would all DOA here. No they could of sought asylum in Belgium. Sorry to sound so patronising on the ways of container shippage but I think it must be catching !!!!
Colin and Jess live in a closeted little bubble in N.I. I am not sure if they know where Ferguson Missouri is. May be their labradors can be trained as guide dogs and steer them into the real world.
As for your earlier Geography lesson re land locked Afghanistan. Containers are carried on lorries and trains in most countries in the world and conveyed to a container port where they are lifted on overhead gantrys onto container ships where they are conveyed to other ports in the world. But I am certainly not suggesting they entered the container in Kabul otherwise they would all DOA here. No they could of sought asylum in Belgium. Sorry to sound so patronising on the ways of container shippage but I think it must be catching !!!!
ColinandJess
The scenarios I mention are not "recognised by you and must of passed you by" Like you don't recognise those crimes happened?
Well in case this scenario passes you by an Irish man from Limavady Northern Island has been arrested for the suspected manslaughter of a person he was illegally trafficking and died in a container. As you are not really in touch with current affairs, remember, you learn't that hear first and not from the Tipperary Trumpet,Belfast Bugle,Eineskillen Echo or the The Watchtower. Now go and bury your head in the sand if you will. Crime does happen in a city near you!!
The scenarios I mention are not "recognised by you and must of passed you by" Like you don't recognise those crimes happened?
Well in case this scenario passes you by an Irish man from Limavady Northern Island has been arrested for the suspected manslaughter of a person he was illegally trafficking and died in a container. As you are not really in touch with current affairs, remember, you learn't that hear first and not from the Tipperary Trumpet,Belfast Bugle,Eineskillen Echo or the The Watchtower. Now go and bury your head in the sand if you will. Crime does happen in a city near you!!
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