Terrorist Threat Raised To 'sunstantial'

[Zacs-Master]

Never quite heard it announced on the news quite so quickly. Quite worrying.
https://www.mi5.gov.uk/home/about-us/faqs-about-mi5/what-is-the-current-national-threat-level.html

[retrocop]

Well I'm not stupid enough to realise that stats can be manipulated to further or defend a positon or subject of debate. Perhaps you would like to comment on crime figures that have been reported in recent years. I can assure you that they are very much manipulated in order that people can see how good their police force is performing. Crimes written off as "no crimes ".crimes not investigated. You will tell me next that child abuse never happened in Rotherham over the last few years because there are no statistics to support it. I am not scared of Stats. They are very good in misguiding the naive and ill informed and I, for one, am not gullible.

[Zacs-Master]

it would take some serious manipulation to alter an 86% majority. You're just being silly now. Anyway, i thought you'd left the thread on principle?

[madmaggot]

Calm down; didn't I hear last week that they're going to issue potential terrorists with 'ASBOs'?

[mikey4444]

Now you are being silly Retro ! The census results are real facts, not manipulated, and to suggest otherwise is just plain daft ! Nobody is suggesting that the Rotherham child abuse scandal didn't happen, and the stats and facts are there to prove it, which is what we have been debating here on AB all week. Stick to the facts Retro and you can't go wrong !

[youngmafbog]

The 86% majority are not breeding anywhere near as fast as the remainder.

Very soon it could easily tip the balance. Probably not in our lifetimes but it does not take many generations for it to change.

[Zacs-Master]

Well, its either 'very soon' or 'not in our lifetime'. It can't be both unless we're talking geological timescales.

[madmaggot]

I don't mind what if any religion. people in Britain follow. What I do mind is when the extremists, who would be violent people anyway because that's what they are, carry out their acts in the name of religion.

[mikey4444]

I think you will find that nobody on here is going to disagree with that madmaggot !

[TWR]

All the comments regards the threats to the UK, the Do -Good Brigade has contributed towards it, the threat has always been there, the Government is still allowing it as they are frightened to open their mouths in case it upsets the said religion, thee is a way to stop it! but will they? put up with it because it's too late to stop.

[mikey4444]

Rather muddled contribution TWR but it seems to be the norm here today.
I presume that I am one of your ""Do -Good Brigade"" but I fail to see why I am responsible for the Tube and Bus bombings, and any further atrocities. These were perpetrated by British Citizens, and, unless I am very much mistaken, not Labour Party members.

[naomi24]

Mikey, What the flipping heck does the Labour Party have to do with any of this? The people of this country are under threat of attack by madmen, and still you bang on about Labour! I know you’re far removed from any potential danger, but that doesn’t apply to us all. And you say TWR’s contribution is muddled! Strewth!

[mushroom25]

// but the problem arises when that opinion is stated as a "fact" and then that "fact" is proven to be wrong. //

like that peddled by Mr Blair, Mikey?

[horseshoes]

Am I correct in saying that WHATEVER measures the government take, the European Court can overturn them?

[retrocop]

+This thread is about the current JTAC terrorist threat assessment. Not about numbers and immigration. I have nailed my colours to the mast and , right or wrong,stated what I feel should be done to try and combat the threat.
I note that when the subject of Islam,terrorism and home grown terrorists are on the agenda the bleeding heart ,do gooder ,lefty brigade will happily jump on stats. They never seem to have the guts to stand up and be counted as to how THEY suggest the threat of the growing threat of Islamic lunatics, who bring their perverted version of Islam to our shores ,should be dealt with in their opinion. Are you bleeding heart leftys so afraid of PC and what your fellow misguided knaves might say about you. It is time PC was left on the shelf and the government called a spade a spade and some of you on AB also. Lets hear some opinions as to how you would deal with this perceived threat by JTAC if you were leader of the government. I believe that the Muslim religion in this country should be carefully monitored as to what is actually taught about it .The Birmingham Trojan Horse indoctrination of young muslims is a prime example. If Islam cannot be taught in this non-Islamic country without a sinister agenda behind it then it must be monitored and, if need be, outlawed.

[Zacs-Master]

Holy Moly. What a rant. Again.

[naomi24]

It might be a rant, but on the whole I agree with retrocop. As someone said on another thread, "our tolerance is their strength" - and he's right.

[Zacs-Master]

I couldn't really see the content for the name calling but in the cold light if day, yes retro has some points.

[naomi24]

It's an emotive topic, Zacs. ;o)