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Farage Wants To Repeal Anti-Race Discrimination Laws
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Anybody who is still unsure whether to vote for UKIP or not in a few weeks time had better see this.
He wants to repeal anti-race discrimination laws ! This will never happen, of course, because Farage and UKIP will never win a General Election ! But the fact that he has said this, is still atrocious .
My Dad had to put with signs saying " No Blacks, no Irish and no dogs" when he was a young man in post war Britain. If Farage had his way, these signs would appear outside the factory gate, all over again.
A quote from the BBC link :::: When asked if he would retain a ban on discrimination on the grounds of race or colour, he said: "No... because we take the view, we are colour-blind. We as a party are colour-blind."
If anybody else wants a reason that Farage and his Party are constantly exposed to ridicule, they need look no further.
Anybody who is still unsure whether to vote for UKIP or not in a few weeks time had better see this.
He wants to repeal anti-race discrimination laws ! This will never happen, of course, because Farage and UKIP will never win a General Election ! But the fact that he has said this, is still atrocious .
My Dad had to put with signs saying " No Blacks, no Irish and no dogs" when he was a young man in post war Britain. If Farage had his way, these signs would appear outside the factory gate, all over again.
A quote from the BBC link :::: When asked if he would retain a ban on discrimination on the grounds of race or colour, he said: "No... because we take the view, we are colour-blind. We as a party are colour-blind."
If anybody else wants a reason that Farage and his Party are constantly exposed to ridicule, they need look no further.
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Firstly we are not in Canada or Australia, we are in the European Union that has a policy of free movement. Secondly there are areas that would not give an Eastern European or a Muslim or someone who is black a job because they don't feel that the individual is 'right for the job' ie not white anglo. That is wrong and we need to maintain these laws or what will be the...
08:45 Thu 12th Mar 2015
Much obliged. Will check it out in the morning.
Further to my 21:23 post, no-one (me included) noticed the slight absurdity in that section of the 2010: namely, how can someone reach the conclusion that their race or nationality is under-represented in a workplace and be in a position to raise a legal case if the nearest you got to the inside of the place was the (failed) job interview? How unlikely is it that they can obtain the full demographic breakdown of a big firm? Who even compiles that kind of data? Who enforces "compliance"? And so on.
Furthermore, assessing under-representation is a nightmare since it is commonly observed that there is a big difference between minority ethnicity/nationality on the national level (sub 15%) and the mix in a particular suburb of various large UK cities. The workplace might be in the centre of such a locality, so what demographic should there workforce adhere to?
Further to my 21:23 post, no-one (me included) noticed the slight absurdity in that section of the 2010: namely, how can someone reach the conclusion that their race or nationality is under-represented in a workplace and be in a position to raise a legal case if the nearest you got to the inside of the place was the (failed) job interview? How unlikely is it that they can obtain the full demographic breakdown of a big firm? Who even compiles that kind of data? Who enforces "compliance"? And so on.
Furthermore, assessing under-representation is a nightmare since it is commonly observed that there is a big difference between minority ethnicity/nationality on the national level (sub 15%) and the mix in a particular suburb of various large UK cities. The workplace might be in the centre of such a locality, so what demographic should there workforce adhere to?
sp, //Muslims employed in supermarkets are moved to other areas if they refuse to touch pork or alcohol…//
///Nothing to do with law. Absolutely nothing.///
I beg to differ. Under existing laws an employer who refuses to accommodate religious foibles in the workplace is likely to find himself in court. It has everything to do with the law.
///Nothing to do with law. Absolutely nothing.///
I beg to differ. Under existing laws an employer who refuses to accommodate religious foibles in the workplace is likely to find himself in court. It has everything to do with the law.
naomi //Under existing laws an employer who refuses to accommodate religious foibles in the workplace is likely to find himself in court. It has everything to do with the law. //
This is where it really sucks. The onus should be on the religious to avoid applying for jobs where they may be asked to be involved with things against their beliefs.
What happens if a person follows a religion that advocates vegetarianism and they get a job in a butcher shop?
These law amount to the religious being able to force their religious beliefs onto the employer and customers.
This is where it really sucks. The onus should be on the religious to avoid applying for jobs where they may be asked to be involved with things against their beliefs.
What happens if a person follows a religion that advocates vegetarianism and they get a job in a butcher shop?
These law amount to the religious being able to force their religious beliefs onto the employer and customers.
Please understand that the whole Muslims refusing to sell pork idea is something that has been inserted into our collective consciousness by the right wing press.
There are hundreds of thousands of Muslims working in the food industry, including those in catering, distribution and sales.
How many stories have we read in the past decade of Muslims refusing to handle pork products?
20,000?
10,000?
1,250?
No...it's around the ten or twenty mark.
Over a period of a decade.
So why is this even considered to be an issue, when it clearly is not. Why do people frame their arguments based on something that is so very unrepresentative of what common sense tells us.
I have never once encountered a Muslim corner shop owner who refuses to sell alcohol or pork products.
I would wager that mose people on AB have the same experience.
There are hundreds of thousands of Muslims working in the food industry, including those in catering, distribution and sales.
How many stories have we read in the past decade of Muslims refusing to handle pork products?
20,000?
10,000?
1,250?
No...it's around the ten or twenty mark.
Over a period of a decade.
So why is this even considered to be an issue, when it clearly is not. Why do people frame their arguments based on something that is so very unrepresentative of what common sense tells us.
I have never once encountered a Muslim corner shop owner who refuses to sell alcohol or pork products.
I would wager that mose people on AB have the same experience.
sp, //why is this even considered to be an issue, when it clearly is not.//
I don’t know where your figures come from, but it most certainly is an issue – if it wasn’t we wouldn’t be talking about it. People can believe what they like but as a matter of principle foibles emanating from those beliefs should not be supported in law to the detriment and inconvenience of anyone else.
I don’t know where your figures come from, but it most certainly is an issue – if it wasn’t we wouldn’t be talking about it. People can believe what they like but as a matter of principle foibles emanating from those beliefs should not be supported in law to the detriment and inconvenience of anyone else.
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