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[dollyann]

hi all i wonder if any one can help me i'm trying to find out the name of my great grandmother to do a tree for my mum as a surprised i don't seem to be able to find my grand mothers birth certificate or marriage certificate all the web sites i visit seem to be the same all i want is to be able to scroll through my self i cant ask my mum because she doesnt know either it seems my nans mum died when she was7 and she didn't talk much about her my nan was born in 1913 in salford and lived there most of her life thanks

[booboo67]

hi
if you give me your mum's name and date of birth i will be able to get some information for you
if you dont want to post it on here email me at [email protected]

[dollyann]

thank you so much mums name is Jeann carroll maiden name preston 19/1/1936

[spudqueen]

I'm afraid you're going to have to go down the route that all of us doing our family trees are, that is by starting at the facts you know and working backwards by ordering certificates. I have had a look at Jean Prestons whose birth was registered in the quarters ending March and June 1936 (you can't look up a specific day or even month, and it's not by when they were born but by when the event was registered). There are quite a few! There was
Jean Preston born Salford to a mothers whose maiden name was Ellams
Jeane L born Liverpool S maiden name Steinberg
Jean born in Barnsley maiden name Denton
Jean born in N Brierley maiden name Goodieson
Jean I Born Fyle maiden name Reynolds.

Are any of these your mother? (I'm guessing the first one). If so then I have found the marriage (registered in the quarter ending September 1935, which means that they could have married in the July, August or September of that year) of William Preston and Hannah Ellams in Salford. Your best bet (if this is your Grandparents) is to order this certificate from Salford Registry Office, details here
http://www.salford.gov.uk/living/bmd/copycert. htm

Once you have the certificate in your hands you will know the ages of your Grandparents when they married and also the names of their fathers. You can then look for the birth certificate of your Grandmother which will give the names of both her parents and the maiden name of her mother. If you wish you could then order the marriage certificate of her parents. If you get back as far as 1901 you can find the family on the census.

Good luck. Any further questions are best posted in History under the Genealogy heading.

[dollyann]

thank you so much you seem to have found all the names of my grand parents could you tell me where you got all your info from i didn't seem to find any of that again thank you x

[spudqueen]

I use www.findmypast.com, though you can also use www.ancestry.co.uk. You have to pay to use the site, I have an annual subscription though you can also buy units which allow you so many looks! If you think that all the events took place in Salford though, and you can get there easily the records will also be there for you to look at, either in the library or records office.

[spudqueen]

Hi again, just realised that as I had the right family I could go a little further back. I found the birth of a Hannah Ellams registered in Manchester in the quarter ending March 1914. Now remember that this is just when the birth is registered not when they are actually born. My own Gran was born on the 30th December 1891 and her birth is in the register in the quarter ending March 1892. Anyway, back to your family, the maiden name for the mother is Curran. Using this information I found a marriage registered in September 1912 in Salford between Harold Ellams and Mary E Curran. Please remember that this does not prove that it is your family, you will need to order certificates to prove this, especially as the Hannah Ellams is born in Manchester not Salford (albeit just down the road). Also I cannot find a death for a Mary Ellams in or around 1920. Hope this has been of some help.

[dollyann]

thank you i will look into it thank you for your time its much appreciated