Another Lock Down Likely

[nailit]

Vaccines worked out well then?
Not to mention isolation, mask waring, isolation, distancing, sanatizing, etc

[Stickybottle]

MrsCheese yes, I have had it and I have immunity so why would I risk my health having a vaccine that would destroy my innate T cell immunity, it would be madness.

Lol
Where do you get the idea that you have immunity ?

[emmie]

no one has it would seem.

[naomi24]

I don't understand why anti-vaxxers are so eager to deter others from taking advantage of the vaccine - which is without doubt highly effective. Do they never ask themselves why the government is going to such extraordinary lengths - and expense - to encourage the population to protect themselves? Do the detractors think the government is doing it to be bloody-minded in some way? Why would they? It makes no sense.

[MrsCheese]

sticky bottle I don't need to be spoon fed facts from the media, In the real world there are a lot of us who worked throughout the first lockdown, caught covid and continued to work with other people who caught covid, non of us were reinfected, the only reinfections came from the staff that recovered then had the jab, the theory at the time (real life one not the popular media narrative) was that the jab wrecks your natural immunity. Never been reinfected to this day, still working with infected individuals, my jabbed collegues have had all sorts of health problems since being jabbed, little things but constant. not worth the risk.

[bhg481]

naomi - I think they are on a par with religious fanatics who believe it is their duty to point out the danger they think you are in by not believing in and worshipping their god. Anti-vaxxers believe their duty is to save you from the master plan of fooling us all into having a controlling substance injected into us.

[MrsCheese]

"I don't understand why anti-vaxxers are so eager to deter others from taking advantage of the vaccine"

The vaccinated are keeping this clown show going on.

[naomi24]

How so? In general, they're not the people falling seriously ill and being hospitalised.

[emmie]

staff at one hospital said how upset they get, maybe that's not the right word, at seeing the unvaccinated needing treatment, having to obviously treat them just like any other patient. which they are not

[THECORBYLOON]

"the only reinfections came from the staff that recovered then had the jab"

How many were re-infected and what is that as a percentage of the total staff?

[naomi24]

MrsCheese, //The vaccinated are keeping this clown show going on. //

That's illogical. Why would the government want to keep it going? To what purpose?

[rowanwitch]

Vaccines have worked really well, the vast majority of those who are becoming really unwell and dying are the unvaccinated.

I agree with those who said only lock down the unvaccinated let those of us who behaved responsibly have the freedom to live protected from those who didnt

[Stickybottle]

MrsCheese
sticky bottle I don't need to be spoon fed facts from the media

Indeed ! Who uses facts anyway to back anything up right ?! Lol

It would seem you are certainly being spoon fed something that starts with F though that rhymes with pieces

[Peter Pedant]

// the theory at the time ( ) was that the jab wrecks your natural immunity.//

do we have any reference for that - besides - 'that was the word in the works coffee room'

[Zacs-Master]

There will be another lockdown after Boxing Day. To be announced Christmas Eve.

p.s. Arguing with anti-vaxxers is a waste of time. They’re obviously part of the entrenched, deluded tin-hat brigade and it’s therefore a waste of time.

[Peter Pedant]

// "the only reinfections came from the staff that recovered then had the jab"// no corbo - oops, wrong name, the name police will be after me!

you need a cohort of those who have had covid, ( and not died) and then had a jab - and see what problems the vaccinated survivors had - trump wd be a member of this set and also BJ

and - - - people are gonna say ( at least I am thinking about this) any side effects are from the primary infection not the vacca

and so you need a control group of infection only - which Mrs Cheese says have had no effects ( 30% long covid, but what the hell)

oh, it is refuted by the early series - the side effeccts and long covid didnt only start after vaccination - - phew !

[Peter Pedant]

yes-No
I reckon tonight - Boris will say: and the band plays on !

[bobbinwales]

I wonder I'd wond up mccheese can explain the 100000 uk covid deaths before vaccines ...ever wondered why none of these people come on claiming they now have natural immunity

[Peter Pedant]

et mon dieu ! - ONS have looked at it - long term follow up of those wiv covid who are afterwards jabbed
God really ? yup really

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19vaccinationandselfreportedlongcovidintheuk/25october2021

feast you eyes !

what does it say - o god knows, I was just astounded it had been
done


and time for boys and gurlz ( usual suspect murmurs: more stuff no one understands I suppose) - the only people doing follow up of large cohorts ( big numberth that ith) is - - the NHS as a truly socialised med system
American and Europe the heath insurers dont speak to each other ( apparently)

[Peter Pedant]

// .... can explain the 100000 uk covid deaths before vaccines ...ever wondered why .....//

she gonna say - - - there you see, the ones who survive ( of which she is one) have super natural immunity

[pixie374]

"What does it say?" It says they don't know.