Citizens Of Uk Opinion Of Obama? Curious American.

[midagealphamale]

i am curious what the general (REAL) opinion of our current president is outside the USA.

[Zeuhl]

aog seems to be muddled about his own principles

we have;
/Welcome aboard, so nice to have some free thinkers on-board./

but that was preceded by'
/But don't be mistaken into believing that the majority of views expressed on Answerbank are necessarily the views of the vast amount of other people. /

Make up your mind aog - either you admire 'free' thinking or you rely on being part of the herd

Personally, I think you are part of a herd - fortunately for the rest of us it is a herd that is fewer in number than it was 40 years ago and the polls quoted above reinforce that view on this specific topic.

But your herd membership has little to do with 'free' thinking. If your thinking was 'free' you wouldn't rely on The Daily Mail to remind you what it is every day LOL

[emmie]

zeuhl, i believe that i have an open mind, read the mail, well get as far as the crossword, and can say that for those that constantly snipe at it, either don't read it, or do and wouldn't that make them as bad as you intimate.

[emmie]

sqad, perhaps some don't realise that some of our healthcare is provided by American healthcare companies. Which incidentally i totally disagree with.

[Zeuhl]

em

there's nothing intrinsically wrong with reading the Mail

I do so myself occasionally - even though it has a depressingly obvious, negative and dishonest agenda and so is full of nonsense; but then all of the tabloids are and it is well produced dishonest nonsense so it whiles away a few minutes.

It's what you make of it that matters

And parroting its dubious stories on a daily basis without regard for their veracity or ulterior purpose is tantamount to distributing porn

[anotheoldgit]

Zeuhl

/// Personally, I think you are part of a herd ///

Id rather give it a bit of 'beef' than be a lost sheep following the rest of the flock.

/// If your thinking was 'free' you wouldn't rely on The Daily Mail to remind you what it is every day LOL ///

Every day eh?

Why bother with the truth when you are trying to get your limited viewpoint over?

Source of my last six threads:

BBC

Daily Mail

BBC

Guardian

Independent

Telegraph.

[woofgang]

I would not for a moment deny the bias of the Mail but is it any more biased than most if not all of our other newspapers?

[sp1814]

I think that there was a degree of relief in the UK when Barack was elected and then re-elected, because we as a nation have moved to the centre ground. Yes, there are extreme right wing and extreme left wing organisations, but we on the whole are not nearly as politically divided as we were in the 70s and 80s.

Barack Obama reflects us more than, say, Mitt Romney.

Also, it has to be said - it's a relief not to have an idiot as president. George W Bush was funny but terrifying - like a circus clown with a submachine gun.

[emmie]

more so perhaps than the leftist Grauniad?

[naomi24]

True SP. I don't think I know anyone who wasn't relieved to see the back of Georgie boy.

[Zeuhl]

/Why bother with the truth when you are trying to get your limited viewpoint over? /

Accusing others of having a 'limited viewpoint' is unwise - stupid even - for someone with only two or three 'viewpoints' themselves

ie
blacks, muslims and other foreigners in the UK are more trouble than they're worth
things were better when you were younger
UK needs to 'escape' from the EU

Are there any other tired, old, right-whinger cliches you would lay claim to that I may have overlooked?

[sp1814]

AOG

We don't need a British Fox News. We have the Daily Mail. That Daily Mail online is the world's biggest online 'news' source is a little alarming. Americans reading it must think we're all closet racists who are terrified of Muslims, but fascinated by celebrities who have 'wardrobe malfunctions' and cellulite.

Just to enlighten us - how would you describe the Daily Mail?

If, say, you were an American who had never seen the DM site, how would you summarise it's content?

[emmie]

zeuhl, the one thing i have gleaned from the mail, it doesn't appear to like any politician, Cameron comes in for as much criticism as Blair or Brown, that there are some articles over time, that have been engaging and funny. I really like Quentin Letts, who lampoons many of his colleagues, and opposition, which isn't something one generally expects. They do break stories that are of national interest, and sometime get it right, so it's not all bad. I don't read the online mail as i am sure it's totally different to the paper you buy from the news vendor, not sure why but it seems to be.

[emmie]

think what would have happened had Sarah Palin been allowed near the White House, or Mitt Romney come to think of it, crikes as they say

[Davethedog]

Squad - I stand corrected but then why are the GOP so vehemently against it?

By the by Mrs Clinton is in hospital http://www.nationalmemo.com/still-crazy-after-all-these-years-fox-news-gang-owes-hillary-an-abject-apology/

Last point The Us economy under Obama is growing, the common concensus was that the GOP would put it back into recession. Remember the GOP's budget we will cut by 10% when asked where, how, when Paul Ryan had no answer.

Free stuff as is quite clear from the demographics the states that get "most free" stuff are Republican so are you saying that the Democrats voted in sympathy for the poor Republicans.

I think the US voted to get Joe Public the chance of a job rather than get Donald Trump another plane after all it was Romney that closed 25 factorys and moved the jobs to China not General Motors.

[pdq1]

Well he certainly lives up to the award of the Nobel Peace prize. He obviously depsises war and wants to pull out the troops in Aghanistan as soon as possible. He is against al-qaeda though and sent 4 drones into the Yemen only last week to kill its leaders. He objected to Libya and let Cameron do all the front running.

I'm sure if China pushed hard enough he could get Twaiwan to negotiate with them instead of placing missiles in a prevocative way, the same with North and South Korea.

[Sqad]

Dave......I would not rather go into why there is opposition to Obamacare as that would incite another debate....;-)

Interesting that you sent that link about Hiliary Clinton...........there is more than that story than meets the eye. if her clot is related to her head injury, then the last thing that she would be prescribed would be Warfarin.
I am completely at a loss with that story.

[anotheoldgit]

Zeuhl

See you haven't addressed your incorrect accusation, regarding my news sources?

So instead why not go on and issue even more insulting, accusations, if it makes one happy.

[FredPuli43]

I see mida, that you've found a right-winger of the old school to endorse with best answer. I am of the right; have been a paid- up member of the Conservative Party, have not voted Labour though I approved of Blair's reform of Labour; but aog seems to belong, in my opinion, to a different age, as much of the right as the old Labour Party of the 1940s and 1950s, with its policy of nationalising all key industries,was of the left. Both that 'right' and that 'left' are long gone as a force in British politics

[jno]

you voted for the man who introduced a socialist health care system into Massachusetts?

[Davethedog]

Sqad your the medical man and I wouldn't argue, but that is a very prestigious hospital, as you would expect, so I don't think there are any lies, because other medical people would catch it.

Possibly the blogger thinks "blood thinners" are Warfarin.