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Prince Harry Nice But Dim
how wise is Prince Harry to admit publicly that he's killed Taliban? surely he's now going to need extra security....at the tax payers expense of course
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First lets get two things straight he was not the commander of an Apache helicopter as one has said, or even a pilot of such, as another has stated, he was in fact employed as a co-pilot and gunner.
Most of the adoration of Harry is brought on by the females of answerbank, who will back him because he is the son of their other much adored, Diana.
I have nothing against him personally, because as most of you know I am very pro-Royal, but I hate all the hero worship that this young man has attracted, and criticise him mainly because of his need to make the unnecessary remark about his killings, as if to prove that he has also 'gone through it' just as all the other ordinary serviceman or woman out in Afghanistan.
Make no mistake he has not been treated the same as any other ordinary Joe, that can be see from what he has achieved in his amazingly short service career.
2006 Passed out of Sandhurst as Second Lieutenant in the Blues and Royals.
2008 Promoted to Lieutenant.
Decorated with the Operational Service Medal for Afghanistan, the Princess Royal, Princess Anne.
2009 Entered full flight training on helicopters.
2010 Presented with his wings by Prince Charles, during the ceremony, he switched his Blues and Royals' Officer's Service Dress cap for that of the Army Air Corps' sky blue beret with a Blues and Royals badge. (now who else would be allowed to do that)?
2011 Awarded the Apache Flying Badge.
2011 Promoted to the Army rank of Captain
2011 Prince Harry was transferred to a US military base in California to complete his helicopter gunship training.
Sept 2012 Arrives in Camp Bastion Afghanistan.
Many 'ordinary joes' have served three or four tours out in that hell hole without almost any hero worship from ABers in fact they are constantly criticised.
Why is Harry any different?
Most of the adoration of Harry is brought on by the females of answerbank, who will back him because he is the son of their other much adored, Diana.
I have nothing against him personally, because as most of you know I am very pro-Royal, but I hate all the hero worship that this young man has attracted, and criticise him mainly because of his need to make the unnecessary remark about his killings, as if to prove that he has also 'gone through it' just as all the other ordinary serviceman or woman out in Afghanistan.
Make no mistake he has not been treated the same as any other ordinary Joe, that can be see from what he has achieved in his amazingly short service career.
2006 Passed out of Sandhurst as Second Lieutenant in the Blues and Royals.
2008 Promoted to Lieutenant.
Decorated with the Operational Service Medal for Afghanistan, the Princess Royal, Princess Anne.
2009 Entered full flight training on helicopters.
2010 Presented with his wings by Prince Charles, during the ceremony, he switched his Blues and Royals' Officer's Service Dress cap for that of the Army Air Corps' sky blue beret with a Blues and Royals badge. (now who else would be allowed to do that)?
2011 Awarded the Apache Flying Badge.
2011 Promoted to the Army rank of Captain
2011 Prince Harry was transferred to a US military base in California to complete his helicopter gunship training.
Sept 2012 Arrives in Camp Bastion Afghanistan.
Many 'ordinary joes' have served three or four tours out in that hell hole without almost any hero worship from ABers in fact they are constantly criticised.
Why is Harry any different?
///2010 Presented with his wings by Prince Charles, during the ceremony, he switched his Blues and Royals' Officer's Service Dress cap for that of the Army Air Corps' sky blue beret with a Blues and Royals badge. (now who else would be allowed to do that)? ///
They *all* do, AOG.
My boy has his original REME cap badge on his blue beret.
///2011 Prince Harry was transferred to a US military base in California to complete his helicopter gunship training. ///
My boy has been out to Arizona/California three times in his capacity as as REME AVTech working on the Apache as this is where the aircraft are tested and the best place for the pilots to train in 'desert conditions'.
Anything else I can help you with?
They *all* do, AOG.
My boy has his original REME cap badge on his blue beret.
///2011 Prince Harry was transferred to a US military base in California to complete his helicopter gunship training. ///
My boy has been out to Arizona/California three times in his capacity as as REME AVTech working on the Apache as this is where the aircraft are tested and the best place for the pilots to train in 'desert conditions'.
Anything else I can help you with?
//First lets get two things straight he was not the commander of an Apache helicopter as one has said, or even a pilot of such, as another has stated, he was in fact employed as a co-pilot and gunner. //
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Let's get one or two other things straight too then. At no time did he mention killing anyone.
Your precis of his military career aside, nothing you have typed has changed that fact.
//Many 'ordinary joes' have served three or four tours out in that hell hole without almost any hero worship from ABers in fact they are constantly criticised.
Why is Harry any different? //
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He isn't, he said so himself. What does set him apart is that he was born into extreme privilege(through no fault of his own) but that hasn't stopped him becoming a thoroughly decent young man, serving his country to the best of his ability, made a few mistakes(who hasn't), been a 'little bit too much Army, not enough Prince' on one occasion but is not afraid to put himself in the firing line(literally) but expects no favour or special treatment and quite understandably has a deep mistrust of the press and media who report inaccuracies about him, leading to some members of the British public to take a distorted and misinformed view of him.
Whatever he does in whichever walk of life he is going to be sniped at, invariably and ironically from people who in all probability couldn't even summon the courage to walk through a Recruiting Office door.
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Let's get one or two other things straight too then. At no time did he mention killing anyone.
Your precis of his military career aside, nothing you have typed has changed that fact.
//Many 'ordinary joes' have served three or four tours out in that hell hole without almost any hero worship from ABers in fact they are constantly criticised.
Why is Harry any different? //
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He isn't, he said so himself. What does set him apart is that he was born into extreme privilege(through no fault of his own) but that hasn't stopped him becoming a thoroughly decent young man, serving his country to the best of his ability, made a few mistakes(who hasn't), been a 'little bit too much Army, not enough Prince' on one occasion but is not afraid to put himself in the firing line(literally) but expects no favour or special treatment and quite understandably has a deep mistrust of the press and media who report inaccuracies about him, leading to some members of the British public to take a distorted and misinformed view of him.
Whatever he does in whichever walk of life he is going to be sniped at, invariably and ironically from people who in all probability couldn't even summon the courage to walk through a Recruiting Office door.
// but expects no favour or special treatment and quite understandably has a deep mistrust of the press and media who report inaccuracies about him, leading to some members of the British public to take a distorted and misinformed view of him. //
Bit like AB actuallly - what's the expression? Ah yes, "Be damned if you do and damned if you don't."
As to AOG's remark //Many 'ordinary joes' have served three or four tours out in that hell hole without almost any hero worship from ABers in fact they are constantly criticised."
What a lot of rot he can come up with. There have been plenty of AB remarks on various threads to their bravery and service to this country. In fact, I would go far to say that your comment is insulting to both them and ABers - it's disgraceful.
However, in the context of what you said, I would also add that they don't have to put up with the media sniping (esp the Mail and Telegraph) that Prince Harry has had to.
One last thing, I said it before, the Army and the Palace would have seen these interviews and programme and endorsed it before it was released, for what ever reason of pseudo-propaganda, interest in portraying what life is like on the front, or for recruitment.
Bit like AB actuallly - what's the expression? Ah yes, "Be damned if you do and damned if you don't."
As to AOG's remark //Many 'ordinary joes' have served three or four tours out in that hell hole without almost any hero worship from ABers in fact they are constantly criticised."
What a lot of rot he can come up with. There have been plenty of AB remarks on various threads to their bravery and service to this country. In fact, I would go far to say that your comment is insulting to both them and ABers - it's disgraceful.
However, in the context of what you said, I would also add that they don't have to put up with the media sniping (esp the Mail and Telegraph) that Prince Harry has had to.
One last thing, I said it before, the Army and the Palace would have seen these interviews and programme and endorsed it before it was released, for what ever reason of pseudo-propaganda, interest in portraying what life is like on the front, or for recruitment.
Just thought I would add a little humour to the proceedings.
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ChillDoubt
/// Let's get one or two other things straight too then. At no time did he mention killing anyone. ///
Really?
In an interview to mark the end of his four-month tour of duty in Afghanistan, the third in line to the throne confirmed he had been directly responsible for the deaths of one or more insurgents as a co-pilot gunner.
The prince said: ‘Yeah, so lots of people have. The squadron’s been out here. Everyone’s fired a certain amount.’
See the interview.
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/// Let's get one or two other things straight too then. At no time did he mention killing anyone. ///
Really?
In an interview to mark the end of his four-month tour of duty in Afghanistan, the third in line to the throne confirmed he had been directly responsible for the deaths of one or more insurgents as a co-pilot gunner.
The prince said: ‘Yeah, so lots of people have. The squadron’s been out here. Everyone’s fired a certain amount.’
See the interview.
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Oh dear, how terribly pathetic.
Have you watched the video clip and litened to it AOG?
Strange that he provided an answer on video to a question posed by someone doing a voiceover in a studio.
The 'reporter' in the studio may well have also asked: It's hot in Afghanistan, have you managed to get a few beers in and fire off some party poppers?
YOU claimed yesterday that you had seen the interview shown in the UK. Odd then that just about everyone else on this thread who saw it are agreed that AT NO TIME DID HE ADMIT TO KILLING ANYONE.
You really ought to move into politics AOG, you make Alastair Campbell look like an amateur.
Have you watched the video clip and litened to it AOG?
Strange that he provided an answer on video to a question posed by someone doing a voiceover in a studio.
The 'reporter' in the studio may well have also asked: It's hot in Afghanistan, have you managed to get a few beers in and fire off some party poppers?
YOU claimed yesterday that you had seen the interview shown in the UK. Odd then that just about everyone else on this thread who saw it are agreed that AT NO TIME DID HE ADMIT TO KILLING ANYONE.
You really ought to move into politics AOG, you make Alastair Campbell look like an amateur.
jackthehat
/// They *all* do, AOG. ///
/// My boy has his original REME cap badge on his blue beret. ///
NOT ALL!!! my grandson is in the Army Air Corps, and he doesn't, but then he went straight into the Corps, and is not just attached to them.
Does your son also have a choice of uniform?
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/// My boy has been out to Arizona/California three times in his capacity as as REME AVTech ///
And your point is?
My reference of Prince Harry going out there was only added to his Service history that I addressed, and nowhere did I suggest that this was preferential treatment.
I apologise for injecting a little humour into the proceedings, I know you are not normally the type to enjoy a good laugh, but don't forget there are others on this site apart from just you.
/// They *all* do, AOG. ///
/// My boy has his original REME cap badge on his blue beret. ///
NOT ALL!!! my grandson is in the Army Air Corps, and he doesn't, but then he went straight into the Corps, and is not just attached to them.
Does your son also have a choice of uniform?
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/// My boy has been out to Arizona/California three times in his capacity as as REME AVTech ///
And your point is?
My reference of Prince Harry going out there was only added to his Service history that I addressed, and nowhere did I suggest that this was preferential treatment.
I apologise for injecting a little humour into the proceedings, I know you are not normally the type to enjoy a good laugh, but don't forget there are others on this site apart from just you.
//NOT ALL!!! my grandson is in the Army Air Corps, and he doesn't, but then he went straight into the Corps, and is not just attached to them. //
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Exactly. As a general rule, attched personnel genrally wear the head dress of the unit they're currently posted to but continue to wear the cap badge of their regiment.
Attched personnel in my former unit generally hated wearing a red beret and many would do anything to avoid it! Some did enjoy the stigma attached to it though.
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Exactly. As a general rule, attched personnel genrally wear the head dress of the unit they're currently posted to but continue to wear the cap badge of their regiment.
Attched personnel in my former unit generally hated wearing a red beret and many would do anything to avoid it! Some did enjoy the stigma attached to it though.
