Is It Racist To Show Concern Over This Fact?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/396390/Migrants-change-UK-forever-White-Britons-will-be-in-minority-by-2066

Should we be like any other country and that is proud of our heritage and our culture?

Surely we should be able to discuss this without any accusations of racism being banded about, I ask this because there was such a debate on this academic study on a radio phone-in last night.

Although a caller gave an educated argument showing concern at the fact that Briton will in the future cease to be a white nation, he was named called by the presenter, and then when he was off the air the bias presenter allowed mainly black persons on to welcome and rejoice the fact.

Why is it white persons are openly accused of 'speaking a load of rubbish', called idiots, racists etc, etc. by these left-wing presenters, yet when a black person phones in they are praised, never called names, and finally thanked for phoning the show with their valuable input?

[annieigma]

Different life styles to native british, we are hard working, god abiding, law abiding citizens, most of us. I refer you again to the local on- line boston lincolnshire newspaper thing. get it up online, i think its lincolnshire today.. now tell me that the immigrants are law abiding citizens.. I am not in the slightest racist, but why is it that 80% of all the newspaper crime reports have non british names, most end with "ski". murder, robberies, attacks, no car insurance,
no license, no mot. ASDA have now upped the the prosecution price from£15 to £35, as they were spending too much money on court case time off for their employees. so now the thieves, and they are nearly always immigrants, and i can prove this, can steal up to £35 of goods and get a telling off and a ban.They do not get taken to court under £35. need i go on? please read our local paper for yourself. If anyone wants a link to it, let me know.
I said before, the truth hurts, but lets get some reality, we want good people to come here, any nationality or colour, BUT not the dregs of anyone elses society.

[THECORBYLOON]

Do the crime figures back up the 80% claim or could it be that the newspapers you read have been selective in the crimes they report?

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

"So we should let anyone in then Andy, you would be happy with that would you?

Are you prepared to rely on our politicians to make the choice for you, and never to criticise their choice?"

/// I didn't make either of those observations, you are putting words in my mouth, which is something you take strong objection to when you perceive it as being done to your posts. ///

And I never said you did, neither am I putting words into your mouth, I was merely asking the questions based on what you had earlier posted, which Incidentally you have still failed to answer both questions.

/// The only difference is - you appear to live with fear and dread, and I do not, and since neither of us can change what will be - I prefer my lifestyle to yours, thanks. ///

You use the word 'appear' that is precisely correct, it is only what appears in your own head, and bears no resemblance to my true feelings.

And please do not do what you accuse me of doing, and that is 'putting words into my mouth', I am free to change my views at any time whereas you on your own admittance can obviously not, therefore I will close by saying " I much prefer my lifestyle to yours, thanks".

[anotheoldgit]

jim360

/// Yes, because no-one who is ethnic British was ever a criminal or a yob..///

How many times on this site do we hear this pathetic excuse for the numerous crimes committed by our imported criminals?

Yes one cannot deny we do have many of our own, but that should not stop us complaining about the increased offences committed by overseas guests?

[anotheoldgit]

THECORBYLOON

/// Do the crime figures back up the 80% claim or could it be that the newspapers you read have been selective in the crimes they report? ///

Why are you prepared to suggest that newspapers are selective in the crimes they report, rather than condemn the criminals that commit these crimes?

I could quite as easily suggest that the police are selective so as to 'doctor' the crime figures, or perhaps so as not to cause unrest in the various communities, or perhaps the Left-Wing press might also shy away from the true facts.

[jim360]

It was a sarcastic response to someone who, in a fairly obvious overstatement, insisted that "no-one from Britain is [antisocial or a criminal]". Perhaps they knew they were exaggerating but such statements are hardly helpful in a debate about this.

Yes, some people coming over here are criminals. No, it's not all of them -- almost certainly not even a majority. We need perhaps to be more watchful about whom we let in to the country, though how we are to manage this is anyone's guess. One part of the solution would be to ensure that criminal records are shared across nations, if they aren't already.

The answer anyway is not to close our borders, and not to assume that everyone coming over is automatically, or more likely to be, a criminal.

[THECORBYLOON]

I do not condone crimes by anyone, I am asking that a statement be backed up by fact rather than accept the opinion of one person reading one un-named local paper. If you have the evidence that the police doctor the figures, go ahead and show the proof.

[annieigma]

Corbyloon, i very much doubt if a newspaper would be selective in who it reports on. All you doubters, have a day out in boston, go to west street Saturday afternoon, and stay until dark, get the hang of it, no british born people, just drunken immigrants who have just arrived and think they are in heaven. I will say again, go online to the local newspaper for boston, see it yourself, and if you think the newspaper is biased, report them. I must say, once again, that there are loads of good immigrants, really nice people, but we must stop the influx of dodgy characters from countries where killing and rape, stealing etc is part of their daily life. Will you wait until you are behind your locked door, screaming for help, but no one comes, as the police are too busy trying to control the masses? UKIP can see this, as did enoch powell. shut the door. do you also doubt that south london have a problem? if so, you need to get out more and take a nice walk through some of the black areas of south london, any time of day.

[jim360]

Of course newspapers are selective, it's incredibly naive to think otherwise.

[annieigma]

Sorry, but this is a local newspaper, and they are recording the court cases as they come, they are not the daily mirror or sun. once again, please come to boston, spend a day at the court, then make a comment. I think the boston target newspaper would be impressed by your comment,corruption at newspaper ground level, you are implying that the target newspaper editorial staff are all racists???.
I don't think so, some members of staff are black, and others eastern europeans. or is that rascist as there aren't any Abberdonians amongst them?.
Corby was taken over by the scots, and is little scotland in england, if you don't like it, head off back home, and leave us English to sort out the problem, just don;t tell us its wrong to want to keep the English way of life. We don't interfere with scotland, wales has home rule as far as it goes, all the signs are in welsh, they hate the English, we don't care, we have a life to live, better things to do, we don't complain, so leave the English alone to object to passive invasion.

[jim360]

Not entirely sure why you seem to be telling me to "go back to Scotland".

Look, a newspaper can be selective without being racist. I've yet to see a newspaper that doesn't put a slight political spin on its stories, or not report the full facts in a case, or have no bias whatsoever. So yes, there is selectivity in what to report. No, I do not think that makes newspapers institutionally racist. I just think it means that you need to garner your information from other sources. Personal experience, perhaps, or several different papers.

If and when I have an opportunity to see what you are talking about I may change some of my views, but I believe honestly that, while yes there are some immigrants in this country we would be better off without, that is hardly the case in general. And we cannot, or should not, close our doors to all based on the crimes of a few.

[Answerprancer]

Chaptazbru - I have no idea what you mean by "do-gooder" and even The Git himself disagreed with you! I couldn't give a monkeys whether you care or not about the label "white supremacist" although I notice that it seems to have ruffled you.

[Answerprancer]

"he tries to cause more trouble on ABer than most"
I'm only pointing out some home truths Mr Git, if you don't like it, try playing a different record other than your usual racism/culture one, and don't start your usual defence of "ooh let's talk about fluffy bunnies instead then".
You are permanently ON ONE about immigrants.