What Happened In Leicester?

[sandyRoe]

A young man named Antoin Akpom is stabbed and the following night a house is firebombed and a mother with her three children die in the blaze.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24076859

[emmie]

i read that the police think it was a revenge attack, more than that i haven;t heard.

[ummmm]

Very sad. All the reports I watched said that they thought it was a mistaken identity.

Even if it wasn't you don't torch a family home!! Madness.

[bazwillrun]

"Even if it wasn't you don't torch a family home!! Madness"

very true...but then if you look at some of the scum we have here now, there would seem to be plenty that have the required levels of madness

[rockyracoon]

Been watching this on the news today, still sickens me how people treat eachother :(

[emmie]

baz, they could have been born here, UK residents, i wouldn't wish this on anyone...

[Snafu03]

looking at the news reports its the tragic result of scores settled by means not aligned with British culture.

Born in Britain or not, life is cheap and 'face' or respect is valued more than human life within sub sections of the UK. These people are as immersed in British culture as your East end London expat in Marbella is immersed in Spanish culture.

[anneasquith]

latest......the children were teenagers, police spokeman said, there may be a connection with the stabbing of the young man nearby. I believe the father is a neurosurgeon who works in Ireland. info via tv, very sad

[New Judge]

"...they could have been born here, UK residents, "

So they may have been, emmie, and sometimes a dog may give birth in a stable, but that does not make her offspring a horse.

[emmie]

one can show, feel sympathy for people, no matter their situation.

[mikey4444]

How anybody can make cheap racial remarks about this tragedy is beyond me. A young mother and her three children appear to have been murdered. Its a terrible event that could have happened to anybody irrespective of race or religion. The ghastly Philpotts killed their own children but I don't remember anybody even mentioning that they were all white and British.

[sp1814]

New Judge

I was born here. I'm 47 years old.

Am I not British then?

Does all the money that I've paid in national insurance and taxes matter less than someone who can trace their genealogy back a few centuries?

Am I not British because I'm black?

Or is it something other than race that makes one British? I don't speak with a foreign accent. I wear western clothing, and my interests are very 'Britcentric'.

I'm extremely disappointed in you to be honest. I have always regarded your posts to be the more intelligent of the conservative thinkers on AB.

To use the hoary old cliché of the dog born in a manger is really thoroughly insulting to me. You are saying that I am not British.

I am.

Really very disappointed.

[mikey4444]

SP...well done ! What a daft post from NJ.

[anneasquith]

4 people dead,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,who cares about colour :(

[sp1814]

snafu03

Your theory may have carried more weight, had this not been the year where Michael and Mairead Philpott killed their kids in a house fire, which they planned to blame on Mr Philpott's ex-girlfriend.

Also, it would have made more sense not to write something like that in the year that Melanie Smith in Prestatyn was convicted five people by setting light flat.

Five people...because she was annoyed at a pushchair left in a hallway.

So...before you and others immediately jump on the culture aspect of this (even though this is just a theory at the moment), perhaps it's wise to take time out to establish whether what you're writing has a basis in fact?

[naomi24]

People here aren’t talking about colour, rather about a culture where revenge, like honour killings, is prevalent. In opposition to racial prejudice, we make a great mistake in confusing the two.

[sp1814]

mikey4444

I simply cannot stand that bloody statement.

What it says is, "No matter what you think, and no matter that your family is three generations old in this country - you still ain't one of us".

And then the same people moan about immigrants not integrating!

[sp1814]

naomi24

But aren't race and culture synonymous when talking about honour killing?

And revenge has nothing to do with culture or race. We see revenge attacks in every race, in every city and in every country.

But we are getting ahead of ourselves.

A revenge attack is one theory...it hasn't been proven yet.

[mikey4444]

Again, well said SP. I got into trouble a week or so ago here on AB for using a naughty word. But there will always be the usual suspects that try to put a racial slant on news items like this. It just shows a lack of intelligence and education on their part.

[pixie373]

Exactly right sp. Of course a dog can't give birth to a horse- they are different species. Humans are humans, so the analogy makes no sense.
It is awful what's happened here and is premeditated murder, no matter what excuses come out.