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Beaten And Burned Alive By Mob In Uk
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Brain dead is what these people are. It is beyond my comprehension. Eveybody should be charged who chanted when he was taken away for encouraging it. This really is horrible
Brain dead is what these people are. It is beyond my comprehension. Eveybody should be charged who chanted when he was taken away for encouraging it. This really is horrible
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It's not in hindsight, it's procedure.
As I said the local team should have communicated with the community about it. They saw the mob when he was arrested - they should have knocked on doors and told people there wa no reason for concern. That has been a commmon procedure in bristol wher there is antisocial behaviour for years now.
It may not have stopped the 2 who did it, but it may have meant that neighbours may have helped the victim.
There are also methods for protecting vulnerable people such as flagging their address for priority response or temporary panic alarms being fitted.
It's not in hindsight, it's procedure.
As I said the local team should have communicated with the community about it. They saw the mob when he was arrested - they should have knocked on doors and told people there wa no reason for concern. That has been a commmon procedure in bristol wher there is antisocial behaviour for years now.
It may not have stopped the 2 who did it, but it may have meant that neighbours may have helped the victim.
There are also methods for protecting vulnerable people such as flagging their address for priority response or temporary panic alarms being fitted.
jeffa - "Do you think that this murder would have happened if somewhere in the darkest recesses of the warped minds of the perpetrators a little voice had said, "Remember that when you are caught tried, and found guilty you will hang by your neck until you are dead."?"
Yes.
Because people like this are so caught up in their own outrage and sense of 'rightness', that the notion that anyone would not carry them shoulder-high round the town en route to tea in the mayor's parlour would never come anywhere close to their minimal intelligence.
You are assuming that people like this are able to think outside their instincts far enough and long enough to understand that actions have consequences. In doing so, you are awarding them a basic level of intellignce which they clearly do not possess.
No-one who murders someone ever thinks they will be caught, tried and executed. If they did, the U.S. states that employ capital punishments would all have murder rates of zero.
They don't.
Yes.
Because people like this are so caught up in their own outrage and sense of 'rightness', that the notion that anyone would not carry them shoulder-high round the town en route to tea in the mayor's parlour would never come anywhere close to their minimal intelligence.
You are assuming that people like this are able to think outside their instincts far enough and long enough to understand that actions have consequences. In doing so, you are awarding them a basic level of intellignce which they clearly do not possess.
No-one who murders someone ever thinks they will be caught, tried and executed. If they did, the U.S. states that employ capital punishments would all have murder rates of zero.
They don't.
Bigotry and stupidity are a dangerous mix. There was a TV programme a while back about a young woman who had moved into a new home. The neighbours had decided that she was Maxine Carr and were trying to make her life a misery. Despite getting the police to speak and explain who she really was she wasn't accepted.
'The police would say that,' one said, 'they're trying to protect her new identity.'
'The police would say that,' one said, 'they're trying to protect her new identity.'
jeffa
I don't know the two men who are charged, but my guess from the accusations laid against them, that the thought of consequences did not enter their minds (which I why I suspect that chemicals may have been involved).
Even without the threat of the death sentence just about every sane person in the country would know that setting fire to a man in the street could not possibly have a positive outcome for their life and liberty.
The reaction is league divisions above what you could even call 'reasonable response". Okay - let's say the chap had been convicted of the brutal rape and murder of a school girl, and then had been released on a technicality (eg. Misdirection by the judge at the trial), I could understand the father of the murdered girl getting drunk one night and unleashing hell on him...but that's a million miles away from what this bloke did - which was photograph some youths who were damaging his property.
I don't know the two men who are charged, but my guess from the accusations laid against them, that the thought of consequences did not enter their minds (which I why I suspect that chemicals may have been involved).
Even without the threat of the death sentence just about every sane person in the country would know that setting fire to a man in the street could not possibly have a positive outcome for their life and liberty.
The reaction is league divisions above what you could even call 'reasonable response". Okay - let's say the chap had been convicted of the brutal rape and murder of a school girl, and then had been released on a technicality (eg. Misdirection by the judge at the trial), I could understand the father of the murdered girl getting drunk one night and unleashing hell on him...but that's a million miles away from what this bloke did - which was photograph some youths who were damaging his property.
The sad thing is, the Self-Righteous Brothers need less than no reason to start their miserable antics, they are so obsessed with their own anger and hatred that the wind blowing in the wrong direction can set them off.
Notions like 'reason', 'law', 'evidence' and so on are not part of their experience - tragic.
Notions like 'reason', 'law', 'evidence' and so on are not part of their experience - tragic.
andy-hughes
/// No-one who murders someone ever thinks they will be caught, tried and executed. If they did, the U.S. states that employ capital punishments would all have murder rates of zero. ///
This excuse is often banded about by the anti-capital punishment lobby.
But no one is saying or even expecting for the murder rate to go down to zero, because there is a capital punishment law in operation.
But I am sure that if it was reintroduced there deficiently would be a vast reduction in murders or actions that may end in murder, such as the carrying of knives and guns.
But don't get me wrong by stating this, I am not saying that I myself would wish to see capital punishment return, but in some extreme circumstances maybe I could be persuaded.
/// No-one who murders someone ever thinks they will be caught, tried and executed. If they did, the U.S. states that employ capital punishments would all have murder rates of zero. ///
This excuse is often banded about by the anti-capital punishment lobby.
But no one is saying or even expecting for the murder rate to go down to zero, because there is a capital punishment law in operation.
But I am sure that if it was reintroduced there deficiently would be a vast reduction in murders or actions that may end in murder, such as the carrying of knives and guns.
But don't get me wrong by stating this, I am not saying that I myself would wish to see capital punishment return, but in some extreme circumstances maybe I could be persuaded.
AOG - "But I am sure that if it was reintroduced there deficiently would be a vast reduction in murders or actions that may end in murder, such as the carrying of knives and guns."
Once again, this process demands the concept of actions and consequences, which evidence proves is simply beyond the remit of most criminals.
The level of intelect required to assess consequences in advance of an action, i.e., not carrying a gun or knife because useage of same could lead to a death sentence, is simply not present in the minds of those who carry out such crimes.
Once again, this process demands the concept of actions and consequences, which evidence proves is simply beyond the remit of most criminals.
The level of intelect required to assess consequences in advance of an action, i.e., not carrying a gun or knife because useage of same could lead to a death sentence, is simply not present in the minds of those who carry out such crimes.
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