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England Is Now The Most Crowded Country In Europe.
that's thanks to the Labour Party, but do you think The Coalition Partys can put a stop to it in the future?
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immigration is a problem, those who say it isn't are deluding themselves, and the government said it could control immigration, it can't, thanks to the EU and leaky borders. Those that get in illegally will disappear into a big city, those that get in legally via visas like students can and do overstay the visa and their welcome. I really don't care what the DM...
07:19 Sat 28th Dec 2013
More weasel words from the Mail
Apparently the Scottish referendum has been held and we are now just England
Either that or the figures for Britain weren't enough so they cut out Scotland so they could run the headline.
Always the Londoners who come out with this stuff - Some people just don't seem to understand that their personal experience isn't reflective of the whole country.
And that's the point isn't it - As they might point out that they don't live in Scotland - I don't live in London
None of us live in the whole of England
So looking at the population density of a country is a silly pointless exercise - it's completely meaningless.
What is important is population where you live
I'm quite prepared to accept that London and the South East has a population problem - but if you can't accept that's not a National issue I think I should dump you in the middle of Wiltshire and see you walk to the nearest bus stop.
The problem is not immigration it's immigration to the South East and I include British immigrants from the North etc. in that.
We need to encourage the people in the UK to spread out more - people need jobs and lives outside the South East
Apparently the Scottish referendum has been held and we are now just England
Either that or the figures for Britain weren't enough so they cut out Scotland so they could run the headline.
Always the Londoners who come out with this stuff - Some people just don't seem to understand that their personal experience isn't reflective of the whole country.
And that's the point isn't it - As they might point out that they don't live in Scotland - I don't live in London
None of us live in the whole of England
So looking at the population density of a country is a silly pointless exercise - it's completely meaningless.
What is important is population where you live
I'm quite prepared to accept that London and the South East has a population problem - but if you can't accept that's not a National issue I think I should dump you in the middle of Wiltshire and see you walk to the nearest bus stop.
The problem is not immigration it's immigration to the South East and I include British immigrants from the North etc. in that.
We need to encourage the people in the UK to spread out more - people need jobs and lives outside the South East
AOG, the BBC link is correct. Unlike the Daily Mail it doesn't claim that England is an island ("isle"),when the island can only be Great Britain, nor does the report read to give the impression that England means the UK.
Do you refer to the UK as "England" ? Do you refer to the Netherlands as "Holland" ?
Do you agree that the Mail was being misleading? If not, why? Do you not notice such journalistic devices being used?
Do you refer to the UK as "England" ? Do you refer to the Netherlands as "Holland" ?
Do you agree that the Mail was being misleading? If not, why? Do you not notice such journalistic devices being used?
Well, let is take this on simple terms, ignoring media studies, statistics and indeed ANY studies.
Ask someone who has been around for the last decade and has loved and worked in many parts of the country...North, the south and so on.
Over the past 50 years one has seen more Asians, Negroes and other races throughout the UK.
Do you agree?
If you don,t, then read no further.
If you do, then how can this come about?
Perhaps Caucasians have left the UK and been replaced by non-Caucasians in that case the density population has remained the same OR the Caucasian population has remained the same and that non- Caucasians have increased ( immigration) OR that both groups have increased due to breeding and cross breeding.
Common sense tells me it is the latter.
Ask someone who has been around for the last decade and has loved and worked in many parts of the country...North, the south and so on.
Over the past 50 years one has seen more Asians, Negroes and other races throughout the UK.
Do you agree?
If you don,t, then read no further.
If you do, then how can this come about?
Perhaps Caucasians have left the UK and been replaced by non-Caucasians in that case the density population has remained the same OR the Caucasian population has remained the same and that non- Caucasians have increased ( immigration) OR that both groups have increased due to breeding and cross breeding.
Common sense tells me it is the latter.
That the population has increased, and that this increase is in large part due to immigration, is not the question. That the increase has led to the UK becoming "the most crowded country in Europe" is. You can have the first (undeniable) without the second (cynical manipulation of statistics to create a false impression).
From years, nay decades, back I have accepted the oft repeated statement that the Netherlands had/have the highest population density in Europe. Well, I have just googled the area and population figures for the Netherlands and England, done the calculation and discovered that accordingly the population density of the Netherlands is significantly higher than that of England (around three times). Thus, although I do not read the paper in question and must accept that the quote is correct, I react to this "news" as just a load of manure.
Sqad...not entirely sure what a Caucasian is but I expect the Polish, Latvians, etc would be included in that category and they have come over here in large numbers, to work, but some of our xenophobic fellow citizens aren't happy, so I'm not sure if skin colour is the central issue here.
"Breeding" ?...what a quaint phrase ! I trust we are not talking about dogs here !
There may be some Brits that dislike the idea of anything other then a perfectly white, perfectly Anglo-Saxon Britain, with old ladies cycling to church, warm beer and cricket, and that is their privilege. But the DM has been found out to be using sloppy and biased journalism, and castigated by most on here today. The DM has been hoisted by its own petard it would seem.
Lesson to be learnt by the DM ?... Must try to hide the blatant xenophobia and attempts to stir things up a little better, otherwise we will get found out again !
Kromo...Britain doesn't begin and end inside the M25. Londoners always think that the whole world revolves around them...it doesn't. Britain is a big place and London is only a part of it. Anyway, London has always been a multicultural society, right back to Roman times. And I live in industrial South Wales, which cannot be described as a sleepy hollow !
"Breeding" ?...what a quaint phrase ! I trust we are not talking about dogs here !
There may be some Brits that dislike the idea of anything other then a perfectly white, perfectly Anglo-Saxon Britain, with old ladies cycling to church, warm beer and cricket, and that is their privilege. But the DM has been found out to be using sloppy and biased journalism, and castigated by most on here today. The DM has been hoisted by its own petard it would seem.
Lesson to be learnt by the DM ?... Must try to hide the blatant xenophobia and attempts to stir things up a little better, otherwise we will get found out again !
Kromo...Britain doesn't begin and end inside the M25. Londoners always think that the whole world revolves around them...it doesn't. Britain is a big place and London is only a part of it. Anyway, London has always been a multicultural society, right back to Roman times. And I live in industrial South Wales, which cannot be described as a sleepy hollow !
Alas Mushroom, you are indeed right. It used to be an industrial power house but all that changed in the early 80's...can't quite remember why now though....its on the tip of my tongue...I am sure it will come to me later.
But whatever people do for a living, its certainly not a sleepy hollow. Some of these London-centric people irritate me, in assuming that the whole world has to revolve around them. And I speak as a real Cockney, born within the sounds of Bow Bells...well, on a quite and clear day at least.
But whatever people do for a living, its certainly not a sleepy hollow. Some of these London-centric people irritate me, in assuming that the whole world has to revolve around them. And I speak as a real Cockney, born within the sounds of Bow Bells...well, on a quite and clear day at least.
Sqad, doctors are high among those leaving the country
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Quite a few responses to my question and link, most not agreeing with the DM, or how it was written that we are not overcrowded.
To those, I wonder what your opinions will be in a few years, or less, when the medical agency's cant cope, no room at your local schools for YOUR children, police forces unable to cope with the rise in crimes, and where is the money going to come from, to pay for the increased benefits that the migrants will be entitled to claim?
It will be interesting to read post on AB, on the same subject this time next year!
To those, I wonder what your opinions will be in a few years, or less, when the medical agency's cant cope, no room at your local schools for YOUR children, police forces unable to cope with the rise in crimes, and where is the money going to come from, to pay for the increased benefits that the migrants will be entitled to claim?
It will be interesting to read post on AB, on the same subject this time next year!
well, I seem to have given the same answer this year as I did to the same story in 2010
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So I'm not expecting to change my mind over the next 12 months.
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So I'm not expecting to change my mind over the next 12 months.
from figures elicited some time ago to the same sort of thread, 70 percent on UK is farmland, so suggest we start getting rid of much of it and build more houses, because that is what we will have to do, and i reiterate i was not just talking of London, where the majority of you don't live, and it has never been as cosmopolitan as it is now. yet again the left of left bring racism into it, all the while some one on here says that happy to have white people in the minority, those same people by the way who have indeed built this country, in the fields, coal mines and industry. With the aid of clever bods like Brunel, just one of many. We have been a trading nation long before the Romans came, and been inhabited by largely Nordic, European peoples who came and saw opportunities for their hierarchical system, people, Dukes, Lord and whatnot from Burgundy, to Germany, right across the continent.
We have perhaps been held back over the centuries by a hierarchical system of land ownership and privilege, but that is largely gone, stately homes have to pay their way those that are left. So if there is concern it has nothing to do with a bloody newspaper.
We have perhaps been held back over the centuries by a hierarchical system of land ownership and privilege, but that is largely gone, stately homes have to pay their way those that are left. So if there is concern it has nothing to do with a bloody newspaper.
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