Kurdish Anti-War Protesters

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2780690/-stage-sickening-mock-ISIS-style-executions-outside-Downing-Street-day-Alan-Henning-killed-terror-group.html

Why do we allow such disgusting scenes on our once peaceful English streets?

Look what we have allowed in the quest to create a multicultural country?

If these Kurds feels so strong about what is happening to their fellow Kurds, why don't they go over to Iraq and help to get rid of ISIS?

[Gromit]

Maybe we should make all the mosques into Bingo Halls lol.

[Gromit]

Crikey! Just been looking for Kurdishstan on the map and it isn't there!

It's gone.

Where are we going to bomb if those pesky Kurds have hidden their entire country?

[sandyRoe]

It is a brilliant piece of street theatre. The protest wouldn't have made the pages of the Mail without those images.

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

Judging by your answers what are you on this morning?

/// Crikey! Just been looking for Kurdishstan on the map and it isn't there! ///

That is because it is not Kurdishstan as you have incorrectly spelled, look for Kurdistan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan#mediaviewer/File:Kurdish-inhabited_area_by_CIA_%281992%29.jpg

Who said anything about us bombing the Kurdish people, is it not them also who are being persecuted by ISIS?

[anotheoldgit]

sandyRoe

/// It is a brilliant piece of street theatre. The protest wouldn't have made the pages of the Mail without those images. ///

Er???? There would not have been any sight of the protest unless it had not been recorded by a camera, so as to make the papers, so as to inform the people.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/01/kurds-hunger-strike-downing-street-isis-uk

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/campaigners-march-through-london-to-protest-against-isis-violence-against-iraqis-and-syrians-9673410.html

Here is a little more 'Street Theatre' for you.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/protesters-march-through-central-london-calling-on-government-to-quit-iraq-bombings-9774567.html

[sp1814]

AOG

You asked:

"Why do we allow such disgusting scenes on our once peaceful English streets?"

Probably because we cherish the freedom to protest. There were about 500,000 anti-war protesters who converged on London on February 15th 2003. I assume that their right to protest against the war is as valid as the protesters you have highlighted. However, I think their aims have been clouded by their methods.

I would agree that the West needs to take urgent action against ISIL (or ISIL, or whatever they're calling themselves this week), but the imagery the protesters have used is immediately and comprehensively offensive, and does nothing to further their cause.

You went on to ask:

"Look what we have allowed in the quest to create a multicultural country?"

That looks like both a statement and a question. Not sure how to respond, but if your point is to alert us to the story, and a wider dismissal of multiculturalism, you have been successful. I feel chastised for being black in your country. For this, I apologise.

Lastly, you ask:

"If these Kurds feels so strong about what is happening to their fellow Kurds, why don't they go over to Iraq and help to get rid of ISIS?"

A laudable proposition, but wouldn't anyone going out to fight *against* ISIS/ISIL look exactly like those who have gone out to fight *for* ISIS/ISIL?

How would we know which could be safely let back into the coun...

Oh, I think I may be up to speed now.

[anotheoldgit]

PiperH

/// When were the 'English' streets peaceful? ///

When we didn't have an enormous amount of the world's people littering our streets protesting about what is happening in the countries that they chose to leave, so as to come and live in England.

[chaptazbru2]

Totally agree with you AOG, totally ....

[jno]

not so, alas, aog: honest people didn't dare go into Hyde Park at night for fear of highwaymen, and that was only a couple of hundred years ago. Later in Victorian times, they didn't even go onto city streets because of the garrotting gangs.

The westy has just nagged Turkey to take action against terrorists. From Turks' point of view, Kurds are terrorists, so we haven't exactly done them any favours. No wonder they're protesting.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

There is nothing wrong in protesting, but what I am against and this may answer your ""Look what we have allowed in the quest to create a multicultural country?" query, is the fact that we have allowed huge numbers of foreign nationals into the country due entirely to the Mass Immigration, Multiculturalism exercise.

Then this in turn encourages these people to take to the streets at a drop of a hat, to protest against happening in the countries that they chose to leave, when we have enough problems of of our own that we could be protesting about.

/// I feel chastised for being black in your country. For this, I apologise. ///

This remark of yours was completely not called for and had nothing to do with the matter in hand, and I can only assume that it was brought on by the weight of that enormous chip that you still seem to carry around upon your shoulders.

/// A laudable proposition, but wouldn't anyone going out to fight *against* ISIS/ISIL look exactly like those who have gone out to fight *for* ISIS/ISIL? ///

Perhaps we could create a special regiment in which they could join, and then go on to provide them with an uniform etc.

Then when they have done the job that they are now protesting over, we could perhaps then welcome them home with trumpets blurring.

[anotheoldgit]

jno

/// not so, alas, aog: honest people didn't dare go into Hyde Park at night for fear of highwaymen, and that was only a couple of hundred years ago. Later in Victorian times, they didn't even go onto city streets because of the garrotting gangs. ///

Only a couple of hundred years ago eh, remember those times do you?

[dunnitall]

Agree with you completely AOG and as far as I'm concerned multiculturalism doesn't work here nor in most countries of the world. It's built to fail because we are tribal animals and rarely can tribes live closely together in peace IMO. As for allowing what is going on in the streets today, I feel it's not tackled hard enough for fear of upsetting the people who are doing it and the consequences of that (whatever it may be).

[sp1814]

AOG

But surely my family's presence here contributes to the multiculturalism you have a problem with?

For this, don't you think I owe you an apology for spoiling your country? Either you're fine with me being here, or you're not.

Which one is it?

[boxtops]

IMO - it's not multiculturalism that causes the problem, it's EXTREMISM. We are a multicultural country from deep in history - most of our ancestry comes from foreign invaders and settlers. It's the extremists who cause the trouble, not the rank and file who came from other lands.

[sp1814]

To put it another way, when the nurse originally from Somalia is tending to a loved one, or the solicitor from Ghana is doing conveyancing on your property, are they too adding to the quagmire which is 'multiculturalism'?

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

You are quite welcome just as long as you behave yourself. ;0)

[sp1814]

boxtops

I think you make a very valid point. I suspect that most people don't actually care about race, but are worried about separatism - something that I think we all consider a major problem.