Are You One Of The Good People Of Britain That This Person Is Referring To?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2918016/Transgender-American-woman-afford-gender-reassignment-surgery-coming-UK-FREE-operation.html

/// She said: 'I know the good people of Britain won't mind funding my dream' ///

[Mamyalynne]

Sorry, I realised after I submitted Retrochic - won't do it again.

[ummmm]

Can you give an example, AOG?

[Retrochic]

its ok mamy it happens sometimes -I came back on the thread and saw all these posts with 'retro' in them and thought -oh hell what have I said wrong now!

[anotheoldgit]

/// As for some of the comments, this world will be a better place when those who have expressed them have shuffled off......///

Ah yes as said before these 'do gooders' are so caring.

[-Talbot-]

RandyMarsh
sigh, does anyone here know how youtube works?, it is not Reuters you know.

Randy is right, there is a lot of frothing over nothing here.
Get in touch with her is you are really that bothered. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Giana+Lopez

[jim360]

To be fair, your avatar does say you are retro...

[jim360]

Actually retrocop, I'm not particularly bothered at all about the idea that I was in an "alcohol-fuelled haze"... rather, it's the views on gender that bother me. I can understand why you hold them, they were of their time, but it's time to move on and accept that gender is less black-and-white than people used to think.

[RandyMarsh]

It a bit pie in the sky anyway, he can't just move here, he'll need a visa and for that he'll need a job and all the rest of it.

Exactly. She is a youtube commentator, she talks about make up, What The Funicular is she doing in a national newspapers website, do we debate everything that everybody says now?

[gness]

DB.....read my post at 14.24....then comment.

[RandyMarsh]

she only has 5005 subscribers
Pewdiepie has over 30m, we are screwed if he makes a comment about us being in the EEA.

[jno]

so that's going to cost me about a tenth of a penny? Yep, I'm good for that.

[Retrochic]

Randymarsh asked 'do we debate everything that everybody says now?'
only when its a slack day at work randy lol!

[jim360]

Not sure I follow your argument, divebuddy. Debates are interesting when people have different views, obviously, and we shouldn't try to stifle debates. But some opinions are crude and ill-informed, or otherwise mistaken. Saying so doesn't invalidate the idea of wanting to encourage debate. If someone came up and said that the Moon was made of cheese, then, well, they're entitled to hold that opinion and debate it if they so choose, but it's still ill-informed and so anyone else should be free to say so.

[retrocop]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2916515/Man-tryst-girlfriend-natural-spring-trekking-desert-heart-attack-moments-later-airlifted-hospital-given-250-000-bill-gets-dumped.html

If an American had a heart attack in the UK he would be treated, quite rightly, gratis. Our US cousins don't see it the same way.
No one would be up in arms if this was a reverse scenario. He pays £165,000 for his life to be saved yet an American expects the NHS to do an unnecessary operation in this country for nothing.The costs might be on a par with each other and I would not begrudge anyone LIFE SAVING surgery in this country

[anotheoldgit]

jim360

/// The world has moved on from a narrower definition of gender. I should say "the western world", because several other cultures never had a problem with this anyway, and recognised the concept of third genders, or of crossovers between the two. ///

What cultures might they be Jim, I only ask because quite a few have not got around accepting homosexuals never mind transsexuals?

[Mamyalynne]

I knew I should have stopped reading the thread when I read 'Gender Benders' on page 2 - thought I had entered a time warp, all debate is possible without back biting and personal shots.

[ummmm]

I take it you've never been to Thailand, AOG?

[jim360]

If you're thinking of modern Africa as an example, AOG, the catch to that is that the chief opposition to homosexuality, etc, in places such as Nigeria, stems from evangelical Christianity -- which is something that isn't native to the country but was brought there. By Colonialists in the 19th/ early 20th centuries, and more recently by some particularly evangelical Americans.

Examples of a "third gender" of some sort beign recognised include in cultures from the Indian subcontinent, or the "Fa'afafine", in Samoa.