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Talbot...you asked me to provide a link yesterday, regarding Danczuk's revealing of Britten's name to the Home Affairs Committee. This I did although you have not acknowledged that. You don't have to of course, but it is customary to do so, and would be nice if you did.
As far as your question of this morning, the Wiki entry contains ample information regarding Savile's previous accusations of sexual abuse :::
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I had thought for a few years before his death that he was probably a pervert of some kind. I remember the interview he gave in 1990, with Lyn Barber for the Independant on Sunday very well. There had been sporadic articles in the Press over the years, concerning his interviews with various Police forces, involving sexual abuse issues, although he was very good at either concealing these dealings with the Police, through legal action, or ridiculing them and hiding behind his considerable reputation as a very successful charity fund raiser.
But I cannot give you an exact date when I became fully persuaded that he was a sexual deviant, only saying that it was quite some years before his death.
I can't surely be the only person in Britain to come to that conclusion ?
As far as your question of this morning, the Wiki entry contains ample information regarding Savile's previous accusations of sexual abuse :::
http://
I had thought for a few years before his death that he was probably a pervert of some kind. I remember the interview he gave in 1990, with Lyn Barber for the Independant on Sunday very well. There had been sporadic articles in the Press over the years, concerning his interviews with various Police forces, involving sexual abuse issues, although he was very good at either concealing these dealings with the Police, through legal action, or ridiculing them and hiding behind his considerable reputation as a very successful charity fund raiser.
But I cannot give you an exact date when I became fully persuaded that he was a sexual deviant, only saying that it was quite some years before his death.
I can't surely be the only person in Britain to come to that conclusion ?
Of course, even if the far-fetched story you have just Googled were true, mikey, it would clearly not be the same as sex abuse- but I'm just saying that there are stories around and if we see them it doesn't prove anything and mean we are 'in the know'
I just think we should wait and see about Brittan- see what, if anything, comes out
I just think we should wait and see about Brittan- see what, if anything, comes out
FF...there are indeed lots of stories around. One concerning Alec Guinness comes to mind...from his Wiki entry :::
"In his biography, Alec Guinness: The Unknown, Garry O'Connor alleges that Guinness was arrested and fined 10 guineas (£10.50) for a homosexual act in a public lavatory in Liverpool in 1946. Guinness is said to have avoided publicity by giving his name to police and court as "Herbert Pocket", the name of the character he played in Great Expectations. The allegation was not made until April 2001, eight months after his death when a BBC News article claimed that Guinness was in fact bisexual and that he had successfully kept his sexuality private from the public eye as his closest friends and family members also knew he had sexual relationships with men.[28] Piers Paul Read, Guinness's official biographer, doubts that this incident actually occurred. He believes that Guinness was confused with John Gielgud, who was notoriously arrested for such an act around the same time"
"In his biography, Alec Guinness: The Unknown, Garry O'Connor alleges that Guinness was arrested and fined 10 guineas (£10.50) for a homosexual act in a public lavatory in Liverpool in 1946. Guinness is said to have avoided publicity by giving his name to police and court as "Herbert Pocket", the name of the character he played in Great Expectations. The allegation was not made until April 2001, eight months after his death when a BBC News article claimed that Guinness was in fact bisexual and that he had successfully kept his sexuality private from the public eye as his closest friends and family members also knew he had sexual relationships with men.[28] Piers Paul Read, Guinness's official biographer, doubts that this incident actually occurred. He believes that Guinness was confused with John Gielgud, who was notoriously arrested for such an act around the same time"
Talbot...I take it that your last post was my acknowledgment !
In answer to your last question regarding the Elm Guest House...since about 1989, when I was working and living in central London. I worked for BT at the time and friends of my BT colleagues were serving Met. Police Officers. We would occasionally all meet up in China Town and have an evening out. The Elm Guest House, and a lot more names that I am prepared to quote here, were talked about quite openly by the Policemen. They also spoke about two members of the Royal Family, not in connection with paedophilia I hastily add, but I might end up in the Tower if I gave those identities away.
In answer to your last question regarding the Elm Guest House...since about 1989, when I was working and living in central London. I worked for BT at the time and friends of my BT colleagues were serving Met. Police Officers. We would occasionally all meet up in China Town and have an evening out. The Elm Guest House, and a lot more names that I am prepared to quote here, were talked about quite openly by the Policemen. They also spoke about two members of the Royal Family, not in connection with paedophilia I hastily add, but I might end up in the Tower if I gave those identities away.
Mikey
So we are now "All" ganging up on you and bullying you. Diddums!
No we are not "all" ganging up on you. We are "all" challenging your dubious conjecture, supposition, thoughts and reasoning. I am not going to launch a personal attack on you and state you are thick or ignorant but I will say that you appear to be very thick skinned if, by now, you cannot acknowledge that "all" of us long suffering ABers are fed up with your rants and obsession on this subject. Should you forget this post began as an obit to Leon Britten. You wrote the very first post and hi-jacked it to again treat us to your subject of child abuse. Very rude and unnecessary. As you always remind others. "If you want to start another thread please do so but not on my thread." Follow your own advice or to do otherwise is hypocrisy. You have gone from Britten, Savile and Alec Guinness to display your vast knowledge of your interest in the perversions of others. Whenever you are individually challenged on this subject you often, as mentioned by others, conveniently fail to respond or sidestep the question and go off on another tangent eg Alec Guinness. As you again have not answered my question as to what is your agenda on this subject I will assume that "your campaign which will not be stopped", is your reason. May I respectfully advise you that your campaign, at least on this site, is going nowhere especially as all you tell us is doubtful and does not hold water. To make your accusations you would be better off providing "smoking gun evidence". If you have the moral courage to come out of your cloak of anonymity may I further, respectfully, suggest a further course of action open to you.
Why do you not take your conjecture to your local Labour MP and voice your concerns and "evidence" to him. You can urge him to read the book ( which I assume is now a Labourite requirement along with Karl Marx) and then insist he takes your evidence and raise it in the House on his next visit.
If, however, he may desist from taking up your entreaty then you can ask him why not can't you. Having seen the performance of Jim Hood your MP would be wise not to follow suit and make a prat of himself on the basis of your conjecture. Please go back to the threads people have posted before me and note they are "all" treating your posts as a joke.e Why Naomi has the good sense not to bother with you now on this subject because she hasn't read your bed time reading and has been excluded by you in further debate because of that fact. Seems when you are challenged and exposed you hide your head under the blankets like a child worried that the bogeyman has seen through the nonsense you peddle.
So we are now "All" ganging up on you and bullying you. Diddums!
No we are not "all" ganging up on you. We are "all" challenging your dubious conjecture, supposition, thoughts and reasoning. I am not going to launch a personal attack on you and state you are thick or ignorant but I will say that you appear to be very thick skinned if, by now, you cannot acknowledge that "all" of us long suffering ABers are fed up with your rants and obsession on this subject. Should you forget this post began as an obit to Leon Britten. You wrote the very first post and hi-jacked it to again treat us to your subject of child abuse. Very rude and unnecessary. As you always remind others. "If you want to start another thread please do so but not on my thread." Follow your own advice or to do otherwise is hypocrisy. You have gone from Britten, Savile and Alec Guinness to display your vast knowledge of your interest in the perversions of others. Whenever you are individually challenged on this subject you often, as mentioned by others, conveniently fail to respond or sidestep the question and go off on another tangent eg Alec Guinness. As you again have not answered my question as to what is your agenda on this subject I will assume that "your campaign which will not be stopped", is your reason. May I respectfully advise you that your campaign, at least on this site, is going nowhere especially as all you tell us is doubtful and does not hold water. To make your accusations you would be better off providing "smoking gun evidence". If you have the moral courage to come out of your cloak of anonymity may I further, respectfully, suggest a further course of action open to you.
Why do you not take your conjecture to your local Labour MP and voice your concerns and "evidence" to him. You can urge him to read the book ( which I assume is now a Labourite requirement along with Karl Marx) and then insist he takes your evidence and raise it in the House on his next visit.
If, however, he may desist from taking up your entreaty then you can ask him why not can't you. Having seen the performance of Jim Hood your MP would be wise not to follow suit and make a prat of himself on the basis of your conjecture. Please go back to the threads people have posted before me and note they are "all" treating your posts as a joke.e Why Naomi has the good sense not to bother with you now on this subject because she hasn't read your bed time reading and has been excluded by you in further debate because of that fact. Seems when you are challenged and exposed you hide your head under the blankets like a child worried that the bogeyman has seen through the nonsense you peddle.
mikey puzzles me,.... from page 1 on this thread.
mikey4444
I subtract nothing from my previous post. As far as I am concerned, he is yet another high-profile person to evade justice for his previous behaviour, along with Savile, Smith, etc.
I don't expect this post to survive for very long but for the record, its "publish and damned "
His above post seems to very much contradict this post.
mikey4444
Sir.prize...exactly right. I'm fed up with all this speculation about somebody who hasn't been charged with any offence. Why can't we just wait until he has been charged and then comment ?
AB is getting more like a tabloid every day.
09:29 Tue 04th Feb 2014
mikey4444
I subtract nothing from my previous post. As far as I am concerned, he is yet another high-profile person to evade justice for his previous behaviour, along with Savile, Smith, etc.
I don't expect this post to survive for very long but for the record, its "publish and damned "
His above post seems to very much contradict this post.
mikey4444
Sir.prize...exactly right. I'm fed up with all this speculation about somebody who hasn't been charged with any offence. Why can't we just wait until he has been charged and then comment ?
AB is getting more like a tabloid every day.
09:29 Tue 04th Feb 2014
From the "So what do you make of this" thread.
Another example of the accuracy of the OPers Posts
///In the footage, taken from the police dashcam, the officer, who is BLACK, also appears to reach into the car and remove what appears to be a handgun.///
Yet mikey asks @ 1510
//When are these stupid WHITE American Policemen going to realise that when you are in a hole, its best to stop digging.//
Another example of the accuracy of the OPers Posts
///In the footage, taken from the police dashcam, the officer, who is BLACK, also appears to reach into the car and remove what appears to be a handgun.///
Yet mikey asks @ 1510
//When are these stupid WHITE American Policemen going to realise that when you are in a hole, its best to stop digging.//
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