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Met Fails To Reach Target For Black And Minority Ethnic Police Officers.

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anotheoldgit | 10:40 Sat 14th Mar 2015 | News
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2993957/Passing-day-Met-s-latest-recruits-diversity-targets.html

Since those with a Black and Minority Ethnic background, only account for 14% of the British population, why does the Met Police deem it necessary to set a 40 per cent target for recruiting BME officers?







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I would of thought that the police and fire authorities would have learn't by now that targeting certain groups usually ends up as an expensive litigation payment when these groups are recruited. Because they have been targeted for recruitment they seem to believe they are a special case and can change rules and procedures to suit them. The police...
15:20 Sat 14th Mar 2015
Because if you are under 14%, and you recruit at 14% then you will never reach the target

[Think bath at 45'C - if you have a cold bath and only add water at 45'C you will never reach 45'C. Ignore this parallel if as so often it makes no sense to you]

The other thing not estimated is the leaving rate - if BME officers are leaving at a greater rate than their anglo contemporaries then even recruiting at 15% say will never get you to 14%.

SOme branches of engineering this is called over-pressure
but you knew that really didnt you ?
Oh God AOG - did you spot Sir Peter Fahy apologising for Rochdale ?

the tenor was : " we're still pretty crip at combatting minority child abuse - but we're getting there ! "
those listening did NOT applaud spontaneously


where did we get them from ? no not the immigrants, the Anglos who are set over us to govern us.

The article says in the London population, 40% are BME which explains the Met's target.
They certainly have a valid demand to be policed by people who understand their culture

The Prevent course ( Dob in a terr' or go to prison yourself ) is truly truly terrible...
AOG

This thoroughly simple...I'm actually surprised you raised this question, because as THECORBYLOON has already said - London has BME population of around 40%...why would they base this drive on national numbers???
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Peter Pedant

/// They certainly have a valid demand to be policed by people who understand their culture ///

Then you would really see 'bent' cops.

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sp1814

/// London has BME population of around 40%...why would they base this drive on national numbers??? ///

Ah, so you admit that we are slowly being taken over then?
Do you mean London, England, GB or the UK is being taken over?
Why do BMEs have to be policed by people who "understand their culture"? If their culture conflicts with UK law then their culture has to fall into line. The job of the police is the prevention and detection of crime. Understanding that (say) it is in many Caribbean cultures to smoke weed or (say) that it is in many African cultures to mutilate young girls does nothing to help the prevention and detection of those or any other crimes.

Frankly I don't care what ethnicity police officers have provided they help me sleep at night by catching criminals.
The Met has always had an open door policy for ethnic recruiting.I recall PC Gums when he joined up. I don't believe he was coerced just because he was black.
Why in God's name should the Met be required to set targets on the basis of colour. If a black want's to join he can join if not he won't. It would seem there is a great reluctance for young black men and women to join.Why,Is it suspicion of the police or more often than not peer pressure? May be there are too many on the streets of London who have fallen foul of the law. I believe the young decent black men and women are too scared of their own people.
This is the usual old chestnut.We read that police forces nationwide are to get quite drastic budget cuts yet we have to recruit more blacks.
The armed forces are having draconian budget cuts but are told to consider raising a regiment of Sikhs and Muslims .
IMHO just an appeasment sop to the ethnic minority.What happened to selection on merit?
Is there any reason to think that BME folk are less able than non-BME folk? If no, why are they so badly under-represented in the Met?
You should address that question to the black community.As I stated above there never has been apartheid on Met recruitment.
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retrocop

/// You should address that question to the black community.As I stated above there never has been apartheid on Met recruitment. ///

No but it is a fact that whites have been excluded from applying, both in the police and the fire service.

These services have even reduced their qualification levels for joining, so as to attract certain groups.
When have white folk been excluded from applying for jobs with the police or fire service?
excluded is perhaps not the right word - under "positive action" an employer can discriminate to set right an under-representation. thus whites (being a majority) can be "passed over" if there are ethnic candidates applying.
Avon fire service have been criticised by the press for doing this
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1576499/Fire-brigade-discriminating-against-white-men.html

but it's perfectly legal.
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What a good example mushroom25, I wonder how THECORBYLOON will react to that?

Agree what this MP said:

"How would people react if women and black people were banned from an open day?
Corbyloon
My younger son applied three times to join the LFB.He was told the LFB were only recruiting Blacks for the the three years he applied.That reverse discrimination was applied by the Met Police recruiting Department at Paddington Green for a while and also didn't work.Targets were not reached then either.
Martin Luther King must be turning in his grave. He believed 'man was man', not black, not white.

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