Do We Bomb Syria ?

[murraymints]

http://www.lbc.co.uk/listen-hilary-benns-passionate-syria-speech-120851


very powerful !

[naomi24]

That^ was to Answerprancer.

[Svejk]

///Svejk : "223 terrorist sympathisers in parliament, who'd have thought. "

Shame on you Svejk.

The 'either/or'[an unavoidable choice between alternatives] axiom has won again, just like the false Left/Right dichotomy.

Is your mind-set ? ///
23:41 Wed 02nd Dec 2015

Sorry, Sevenop. I should have added (sarc, smiley face) for the absence of doubt.

[sevenOP]

"I don't claim to be an expert on weapons, but as I understand it targets can be pretty accurately assessed these days. The alternative is the spread of ISIS. Is that a better idea? "

Big changes since the summer in Intel then.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/may/31/us-bombers-hold-fire-on-islamic-state-targets-amid/?page=all

[Answerprancer]

My definition of "knuckle draggers" especially for you viv:
Those punishment, death and revenge-hungry lot who glean most of their 'facts' from (for example) tabloid newspapers like the Daily Mail.
They are hate-filled sociopaths who either cannot or will not study the facts and figures properly, or question anything that is presented to them via the media.
People who are without compassion or understanding basically and can only spout hate and bitterness.

[viv41]

No, still can't equate that to people on AB !

[Answerprancer]

"Don't innocents always perish in war" - yes.

"...and what are we supposed to do, let these monsters carry on killing our innocents whenever they fancy and torturing their own??"

...they key words here are "these monsters" and the issue is that no one knows exactly who or where they are and there are too many KNUCKLE DRAGGERS who apparently don't care so long as revenge is carried out somehow.

[viv41]

Sounds to me YOU are the one full of bitterness ......

[Answerprancer]

Well viv, happily there are only a handful on AB afaic, but there are quite a lot out there away from the internet, and that is more serious.

[Jackdaw33]

Your hatred for the Daily Mail knows no bounds, AP

[Answerprancer]

I only get bitter here when the KDs start it Viv, otherwise all else is roses ;-)

[viv41]

Oh go and have a lie down AP before you blow a gasket, seriously. The sooner they start bombing the better imo and I am happy that this is the way the vote has gone.

[Answerprancer]

Well JD, its fact-twisting manipulative insidiousness also know no bounds IMO.
It preys on the intolerant.

[venator]

IS will be dancing in the streets!

Their recruiters will be telling susceptible young British Muslims " see - they are going to kill your brothers in Syria - go and fight for Islam, it's your duty, and you will be revered as a shahid - holy martyr - if you fall in battle"

[sevenOP]

Fair enough Svejk, I withdraw the shame (: ¬ ), but my remarks "The 'either/or'[an unavoidable choice between alternatives] axiom has won again, just like the false Left/Right dichotomy. -Is your mind-set ?"

were aimed at everyone who buys into this false dichotomy(either/or) epitomised in comments like this :-

naomi24: "The alternative is the spread of ISIS. Is that a better idea? "

[Answerprancer]

Better to "blow a gasket" than blow the brains out of a few thousand innocent men women and children.

[viv41]

Sorry AP I may have been a bit rude there, off to bed now ......

[Answerprancer]

No prob ..night night ;-)

[Jackdaw33]

Looking at the figures it looks as though Cameron did not need Labour votes after all. Only 7 Tories voted against, which was more than offset by the LDs and DUP who voted in favour.

[naomi24]

sevenOP, like Answerprancer you criticise but you offer no alternative whatsoever. I can only presume your solution is to do nothing, allow 'these monsters' (that's what they are) to carry on spreading their cancerous evil even further with not a thought for the thousands of innocent people they slaughter. I have to wonder whose side you people are on! This hand-wringing is sickening.

Jackdaw33, don't. You'll upset Mikey. :o)

[dannyk13]

Tornados carried out bombing mission last night.