Would Syria Be Better Under Us Control?

[Marshwarble]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syria-crisis-civilian-describes-the-effect-of-living-under-isis-control-and-constant-air-strikes-a6757056.html

What do you think?

[Marshwarble]

Obviously I mean "US" not "Us".

[ichkeria]

I think that Syria needs a ceasefire, that is what it needs.
But what it needs and what it is going to get are sadly very different.

What makes you think Syria is ever likely to come under US "control"?

[Marshwarble]

Iraq, in a word. But I know Syria is different.

[ichkeria]

I'm not sure if you are being ironic. Anyway, Iraq was a largely stable country until it was invaded by allied forces, mainly the US, who fairly quickly routed Saddam's army but a combination of woeful planning and a campaign by Iran and Al Qaeda meant the US never really controlled it.
Syria is as you say completely different. There is no question of the US coming in to run it even for a short while. In fact it will probably never return to being the country it was.

[Marshwarble]

No, I am not being ironic. I am just starting a discussion.

[sandyRoe]

Aren't the Turks the former colonial power? They might make a fair fist of running it.

[Marshwarble]

I'm kind of wondering if it'd be the best way to control Daesh/IS really.

[Khandro]

Are you joking Sandy?

[sandyRoe]

Who would weep for the member of ISIS if their new masters decided to wipe them off the face of the earth?

[sandyRoe]

;-)

[jno]

the Turks and the Ottomans aren't exactly the same thing. A lot of Turks died to remove the Ottomans from power.

None the less, I don't imagine the Kurds would be happy seeing a Turkish takeover.

[ichkeria]

It would be interesting to investigate just what the relationship actually is between President Assad and IS. As you probably know the US Treasury has released details of growing evidence that the chief financer of IS through its illegal oil grade is actually the Syrian government, which has long been suspected of bolstering IS. And, further, that Russian financial concerns as well as Syrian business men, are facilitating the money laundering.
Why does it do that? Pretty obviously because they need the oil, which they no longer have control over. And if IS uses the money against Assad's real enemies, then so much the better for him for now

[Svejk]

Seriously, ichi?

[Khandro]

// As you probably know the US Treasury has released details of growing evidence that the chief financer of IS through its illegal oil grade is actually the Syrian government, which has long been suspected of bolstering IS.//

No I don't know, any creditable links to that?

[jno]

Khandro, this may be the story ichkeria has in mind (apologies to both of you if it isn't)

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8650d576-93bc-11e5-bd82-c1fb87bef7af.html#axzz3tNkwGdaJ

[ichkeria]

Here's another link (I find the FT website a pain)

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-says-syria-is-buying-oil-from-islamic-state-1448471418

I'm not suggesting, and not I think is the US, that Assad actively supports IS, but in these sorts of situations, people do pacts in the short term to get by, without necessarily taking a long term view. Plainly, ultimately, IS and Assad would be enemies, just as Russia's working with Iran is also bound to end in tears - and indeed the US and the mujahideen in Afghanistan years ago.

[Khandro]

I think we can safely discredit both of those sources, in fact, when it comes to president Obama I now personally discredit everything he says.

[keyplus90]

Why not the whole world under US control?