When Does The Fight-Back Start?

[Khandro]

With so many innocent people killed in the space of a fortnight, now including an 86-year-old priest in his own church by Islamists, how far does this have to go before society starts to retaliate?
I suggest 'corporate responsibility'; that for each of these atrocities done in the name of Islam, 5 percent of mosques are closed down.

[bazwillrun]

"That's it for me on this never ending hatred towards the Muslim community on A B.. Hide behind your computers, but have you ever thought racists you maybe part of the problem.? "

oh dear ...do wish people like you would stop bandying about words like racist, a word you obviously dont have a clue as to its meaning judging by the way you throw it about

[fiction-factory]

It's easy to say something must be done or suggest scattergun /unworkable 'solutions' (build a wall/close the mosques/ stop using their taxis/make them feel unwelcome) but no-one can be sure it will make better rather than worse.

[anotheoldgit]

What can be done?

1/ Introduce ID cards
2/ Scrap duel nationality passports.
3/ Refuse entrance back into the UK to those who choose to join ISIS.
4/ Intern all suspects
5/ Reintroduce National Service.

[fiction-factory]

Racist- is that the opposite of virtue signaller?

[bazwillrun]

@ff

its like intelligence gathering, every little piece no matter how small or seemingly insignificant, when its all put together makes a difference..

any actions no matter how seemingly small, all add up in the big picture..

I've been boycotting these people and their business for ages , well before all these problems started and will continue to do so...Im happy knowing that im not giving them any of my money wherever possible..

I have no intention of encouraging them to come here and stay and never will

[jackthehat]

///5/ Reintroduce National Service. ///

Teach the disaffected youth how to 'properly' conduct a military offensive?

I don't think you've thought that through........

[douglas9401]

".... but no-one can be sure it will make better rather than worse."

One thing's certain, doing nothing won't work, that's been tried and proven to fail. Sitting chatting with 'community leaders' has achieved little or nothing, maybe economics would have more of an effect.
No-one can be sure of anything but new approaches to problems are needed when the usual remedies don't work.

[fiction-factory]

>1. Introduce ID cards

Like they have in Germany and Belgium?

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

Well at least we would know who are prepared to show allegiance to the UK (those that don't flee the ship that is).

Then the 'few' (as they are often referred to) would soon be sussed out.

[douglas9401]

I doubt the 'disaffected youth' would take the Queen's shilling. They already have their own training programmes anyway.

[anotheoldgit]

fiction-factory
>1. Introduce ID cards

/// Like they have in Germany and Belgium? ///

Like they have in most countries in the World, those who like to know who is in their country that is.

[jackthehat]

No.
Young radicalised muslims would sign up, train, pass out and leave the Armed Forces; emerging just as radicalised but with greater knowledge on how to perform as effectively as possible.

I don't think we need to train our enemies, do we....?

[fiction-factory]

ID cards don't seem to have stopped atrocities in Germany and Belgiumi

[douglas9401]

A quick Google check confirms that the British armed forces have no courses in slaughtering children and aged priests, jack, I doubt they'd be queueing round the block.

[andy-hughes]

Khandro - //I suggest 'corporate responsibility'; that for each of these atrocities done in the name of Islam, 5 percent of mosques are closed down. //

Spoken like a true Christian! Religious tolerance is alive and well.

Tell you what, I'll endorse your scheme if, every time there is a high school shooting in America, five per cent of gun dealers are closed down.

It's about as likely, and about as appropriate.

[Ric.ror]

Isis doing Trumps job for him

[Khandro]

//ID cards don't seem to have stopped atrocities in Germany and Belgium //
The atrocities in Germany are very recent and it has gone quite in Belgium it seems, being able to know who is who could well have helped prevent more happening previously and it certainly helps in rounding up the associates of the killers.

[Khandro]

andy //Spoken like a true Christian! Religious tolerance is alive and well//

I'm all for religious tolerance, but I oppose religious terrorism.

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

/// Young radicalised muslims would sign up, train, pass out and leave the Armed Forces; emerging just as radicalised but with greater knowledge on how to perform as effectively as possible. ///

If that was the case why aren't they already rushing to join up now?

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// Spoken like a true Christian! Religious tolerance is alive and well. ///

It is for those religions which teach tolerance. but afraid we can't include Islam in those religions.