Why Wont They Be.?

[webbo3]

why do they gey an amnesty?
I hope they don't get the £5k and a new house because if they are subletting they clearly dont need the one they were give.

http://news.sky.com/story/grenfell-tower-illegal-subletting-amnesty-announced-by-sajid-javid-10934448


Dave.

[naomi24]

//I think they have better things to worry about at the moment like finding an accurate death toll. //

Sub-letting is a huge part of the problem in determining an accurate death toll. The Council has no idea who was living in many of those flats or how many people lived in the block. They said that in the beginning.

[-Talbot-]

Sub-letting should have been dealt with in the past and then they might have had a clue how many victims they were looking for.

It's not just a problem in London, Minty.

[Baldric]

What bit of the OP Link did you not understand,
They want people to come forward to help identify victims, and who might possibly know who was living where.
They are not chasing anyone for subletting atm.

[murraymints]

agree Ummmm..but had the illegal sub letting not been an issue then accounting for people lost would be so much easier... the final figure will always be an estimate..not accounting for visitors etc... The named tenants ie those who should have been living there but were not, and profiting from this, should NOT go unpunished..

[murraymints]

Indeed Talbot.....

[anotheoldgit]

Nothing more than expected from those who enter our country and start ripping us off at every opportunity.

Will those who come forward be offered legitimate accommodation?

[ummmm]

They shouldn't go unpunished but they might not come forward if they think they'll be prosecuted.

[Islay]

To AOG, because only //those who enter our country// sub let do they, white council renters would never sub let would they!!

You are truly special!!!

[Berniecuddles2]

sub letting goes on all around the uk as long as councils get their rent they dont give a to$$ who lives there!

[ummmm]

They do Bernie but it's a hard job to check.

[jackthehat]

Never mind the 'shoulds' and 'shouldn'ts', we have to face the reality of the situation before us.

The dead of Grenfell deserve to be given their names. If, after that, moves can be made to tighten up the sub-letting problems rife in this area (and others) then that's all to the good but it's not the most pressing issue at the moment.

[naomi24]

Even if the people who were sub-letting the flats come forward, they're unlikely to know - or care - who was living there. They just take their 'rent' money every month.

[Berniecuddles2]

there is the trouble ummmm the councils dont check their getting their rent payed so why check who lives there!

[ummmm]

They'll be families out there who don't even know their loved ones are dead because they didn't know they were subletting.

[murraymints]

the practicalities mean identifying all of the victims is simply impossible, especially given the transient nature of a shifting population, some of which belonged to the black economy..similar problems with 9/11 .. there were also fraudulent "victim claims" as has been the case here too...

[ummmm]

There's a few day time programmes that often show councils checking for subletting.

[Berniecuddles2]

i totally agree with JTH people need to know exactly how many people lost their lives in the fire at the moment it is 80 i bet its at least double that if not more ...terrible

[naomi24]

Bernie, as far as councils are concerned they rent flats to people who meet the criteria. If the rent money is coming in regularly, unless someone ‘grasses’ on a tenant who happens to be sub-letting, why would the council check? To all intents and purposes everything is as it should be.

[anotheoldgit]

I even doubt that some of the tenants who are subletting are themselves paying the full rent, but are subsisted by the tax payers.

[Peter Pedant]

I didnt know subletting a council flat was a crime.
usualy it is a deal breaker

I dont think this is a 'have a second house' offer
but more of a - "if this body isnt you we would like to know whose it is"

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