I Take It They Are Not Worried About Housing Then.

[webbo3]

there is a housing shortage in London, so instead of a pub they can make a few flats for the residents of Grenfell to move into if they want it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4763298/London-planners-insist-new-flats-gay-bar.html


Dave.

[ummmm]

You sure would, Jo :-)

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814
No, there is no reason why gays can't meet and chat with each other in 'regular' bars.

Interesting about your reference to dance halls, a venue where it is not unusual to witness two or more women dancing together, and no one cares a hoot, but it would be frowned upon even today to see two men dancing together.

So perhaps on behalf of male gays the world over, gay action groups would be better employed fighting for their equality with lesbians?

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814
/// Of course Cloverjo, but older people generally don't go to bars and clubs that play loud EDM. ///

I don't know what loud EDM is sp, but would I be right to add one more group to my list of who I would prefer not to live next door to me?

[sp1814]

AOG

Gay people meet up with gay people and straight people all the time in regular bars and clubs.

However in the example I'm giving you, I'm talking about when gay people go out 'on the pull' (for want of a better word).

It would be impractical to do at a regular bar, because of maths. The vast majority of patrons will be straight. That is one of the reasons why gay bars and clubs exist.

Surely you see the logic there???

[albaqwerty]

I never knew SP was gay, not that is matters to me one jot.
SP is a human being, and that is important.

[sp1814]

AOG

You can use a website called Google to look things up.

EDM stands for 'electronic dance music'.

Please note though, when considering who you don't want living next door to you, that whilst a lot of young gay people like to listen to, and dance to EDM when they go out, it doesn't necessarily mean they blast it out at home.

[ummmm]

It's not just out 'on the pull' it's just being yourself and having fun with no gay bashers about.

[sp1814]

AOG

You wrote:

//but it would be frowned upon even today to see two men dancing together.//

That sounds like a justification for gay friendly bars and clubs, right?

[sp1814]

ummmm

True - I was just trying to explain one of the reasons why gay friendly places exist.

In just about every couple I know (whatever their sexuality), their clubbing and bar-hopping nights decrease as they settle down and get older.

[jackthehat]

///Interesting about your reference to dance halls, a venue where it is not unusual to witness two or more women dancing together, and no one cares a hoot, ...///

Oh, I don't know.....
Mrs JtH and I caused quite a stir when we did the Lambada on the dancefloor at Long Buckby Working Men's Club. :o)

[sp1814]

By the way ummm, congratulations on 100,000 answers!

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814
/// You can use a website called Google to look things up. ///

I know perfectly well where I can gain information from, Google just being one, but surely it is only common courtesy for a poster to use the correct term rather than letter abbreviations, saves all that misunderstanding.

Of course there is no need, when the abbreviation is known to almost everyone, such as the BBC, the RAF, the USA, GB or AB.

[sp1814]

I'm wondering whether you get my point about the demographics of gay friendly bars, pubs and clubs - especially for young people going out 'on the pull'?

At this point, I'm not sure whether you get the point that in terms of numbers, regular bars wouldn't work in that situation.

Do you see my point?

[sp1814]

By agreeing with me on this, it's not a case of me being right, and you wrong - because it may be a point that you'd never considered before. But in my understanding of what attracts people to bars and clubs, it certainly fits.

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

/// Oh, I don't know.....
Mrs JtH and I caused quite a stir when we did the Lambada on the dancefloor at Long Buckby Working Men's Club. :o) ///

All depends on what you two got up to, whilst dancing the Lambada together. :0)

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

I can understand what you are getting at to a point, but don't you think that rather than isolate yourselves in special venues it would be better for all minority groups to learn to integrate into common society?

[naomi24]

aog, what on earth are you talking about? You really do say the daftest things at times.

[sp1814]

AOG

But gay people don't exclusively go to gay bars. Remember, gay people have straight family and friends, so naturally they will have a wide range of venues to go to, depending on who they are with.

I would understand your point about isolation if gay people ONLY went to gay bars/clubs - but that's simply not the case. In fact, I doubt it was ever the case.

[anotheoldgit]

naomi24
/// aog, what on earth are you talking about? You really do say the daftest things at times. ///

Look don't start on me simply because you do not have the likes of Zacsmaster and your other opponents to vent your argumentative venom on.

I am not asking you to agree with me, but please don't call me daft because of that fact.

[anotheoldgit]

Perhaps I will pop over to ChatterBank and see what,
Unpopular, But Inoffensive Opinions is all about, seems it is just the thread for me.