Brexit - No Deal

[Bazile]

There are people ( some on here ) who advocate walking away without a deal , if one can't be had .

Are there any authoritative sources that give an independent unbiased list of the pros and cons , of so doing ?

[dannyk13]

Unless it actually happens nobody can predict what the consequences might be.

[Bazile]

So what's the point of all this discussion on here from brexiteers on here and elsewhere telling us that this is the way to go ?

[dannyk13]

No point at all Bazile.We just seem to have a lot of Abers who can see into the future.

[ToraToraTora]

the EUSSR is not the only game in town, if they are having a hissy fit then we should walk away. That does not mean that we cannot come to an arrangement in the near future we just need to break this sillyness with Darth Barnier.

[Peter Pedant]

//Are there any authoritative sources that give an independent unbiased list of the pros and cons , of so doing ?//

nope - you have to do it yourself
there wasnt one for staying either - altho the remainers later said - that was a mistake

we have sleep-walked into Brexit and
may well sleep walk into a hard exit

[trt]

Brexit# Brexit# Brexit# Brexit.

It seems that it's taking over our daily lives, and I am p1@@ed off hearing or listening about it, and I dont care now, if we stay or leave.

[jno]

don't waver, trt! You must be ready to march undaunted toward the New Jerusalem of love and peace and GDP.

[Peter Pedant]

trt - you could write a catchy song
Brexit ! Brexit! La la la!
Brexit ! Brexit! La la la!
oo I love Brexit

( sing to lines of "I love onions!" )

[youngmafbog]

we have sleep-walked into Brexit and
may well sleep walk into a hard exit

No we wont to either.

A referendum was held and whther you like it or not the remain lost. Those that voted leave, in the main, thoght long and hard. I suspect similar happened in the remain camp.

Those that voted leave are not
Thick
Stupid
Xenophobic
Racist
idiotic
unable to come to an intelligent outcome
and the list goes on but you should have the picture.
In addition when making the call most did
Not make it on one point alone
Did understand the issues (even through Project Fear)
did not think it will solve immigration overnight
DID expect a proper Brexit with no links to the EU left at all
Did NOT expect any agreement(One reason many voted out because they knew the beaurocratic EU can never make a decision)

[andy-hughes]

I know I am repeating myself, but this is about negotiation.

In a negotiation, either side always has the option of walking away, and sometimes, in order to assist, it helps to remind the other side of that fact, just to concentrate their minds.

Negotiations continue, and until they conclude, or one side walks away, this continues to be what it always has from day one, and will be until conclusion - speculation.

[dannyk13]

BA to youngmafbog.

[youngmafbog]

I'm pretty sure most people (certainly on here) who voted to leave understand that Andy.

It seems to be the remain crowd that dont.

[andy-hughes]

YMB - // I'm pretty sure most people (certainly on here) who voted to leave understand that Andy.

It seems to be the remain crowd that dont. //

You may be right there.

[Gromit]

Try this

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/brexit-no-deal-customs-white-paper

Suppose to be Independent, and is notGovernment influenced.
Those who think the 'No Deal' is the 'simple option' are badly mistaken.

[youngmafbog]

//Those who think the 'No Deal' is the 'simple option' //

Err, who has said that?

Once again the remain state things they would like to be the case even if it is not true.

[ToraToraTora]

"It seems to be the remain crowd that dont. " - I think they understand YMB it's just that their noses have been put out of joint so they'll do their best to talk down the country and will hope that things go wrong simply so they can have their na na nana na moment.

[Kathyan]

I voted leave and I knew exactly why I voted that way. I'm sick and tired of the remain voters telling me that I didn't know what I was voting for, that I voted the wrong way, that I have ruined their lives (?), that I am uneducated, that I am from a poor background etc. I am none of these things. I came to my decision 1) Because I never wanted to be a part of the EU in the first place. 2) We were never consulted over each process of being taken in. 3) It's an undemocratic organisation. 4) I would rather be ruled by our own Government. I am confident that we can make our own way in the world and that the EU only wanted us for our monetary contribution (proof, if needed, by the insistence of the 'divorce' payment amount before negotiations can begin).

[Old_Geezer]

There a list/discussion on the BBC site. It means there are some agreements that would need to be agreed quickly, regardless. But both sides would be keen on that. Apart from that there is the minor annoyance of reverting to WTO rules when trading with the EU, and the benefit of finding new customers and suppliers elsewhere in the world.

[Old_Geezer]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39294904

Worth accepting though that everyone has a view on what a disadvantage and advantage is. And one needs to compare with the alternative of capitulating and only being out in name.

[jim360]

While I of course agree with kathyan et al (in the sense that voting for Brexit is not a sign of being moronically stupid), any chance it can go the other way too, please? I'm fairly sure us Remainers are more than a little tired of being labelled anti-British and traitors and the like.