Oh Dear Has This All Gone Way To Far?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5027717/Twitter-slams-Adam-Sandler-touches-Claire-Foy-s-knee.html

When has a female trousered knee become a sex object?

I don't suppose a sexual thought went through this chaps head, show business people are very touchy feely 'lovey-dovey' people anyway.

[pixie374]

I suppose the answer is whether he would have done the same to a man sitting next to him.

[TWR]

The Entertainment Industry has now opened the doors, I do not condone this practice in any way but Jesus, it's getting out of hand, what will they say next, this person that person is invading my space, will they ask for separate seats next?

[Zacs-Master]

Drinking alcohol on TV, and possibly (ah-hem) beforehand is never a good idea.
Placing ones hand on another’s knee, male or female, when unwanted, is an invasion of privacy.

No one is saying the knee is a ‘sex object’ (Zacs winces at the clumsiness of this description)

[pixie374]

I don't think it's a huge deal itself. It's more that she kept trying to stop him and he carried on anyway. Doesn't make him look good.

[jackthehat]

Your rationale shows exactly why it is so difficult for (mainly) women to be able to stop (mainly) men touching them unbidden.....and why it is difficult for them to be taken seriously when they do complain.

[anotheoldgit]

pixie374
I don't see why not, if he was sitting next to him and in conversation he was referring to him.

We am not talking a full knee massage here, but a touch or a moment's grasp.

[Peter Pedant]

yeah dogs and small kids aside
I say sorry if I touch people on the street

on a bus I was aligning my aching back onto a pole thing ( they stick out in various places on buses) and someone squealed behind me
and i turned to the young muslim women and said 'I am sorry I thought you were a bit of metal' - she had a sense of humour

[pixie374]

No, I agree. But she clearly didn't want him to.

[Zacs-Master]

We am talking about an unwanted advance. Touching someone’s knee is a classic sexual entreé. So much so that it’s used as a device in films and tv progs to indicate the underlying intentions of the toucher.

[Peter Pedant]

she was clinging onto a bit of the pole

arent we in a periodic witch hunt that the British love so much ?

s/o today said - hasnt all this gone to far ?
and my god wasnt she howled down !

[TWR]

I hope this gets taken as a serious comment and not twisted, have you ever been "Tapped" by the same sex? what I mean by that, a few of us were in a church bell tower years ago, this bloke appeared & came out with a few crude words, you could see what he meant, my mates and I shot down the stair's the dirty bsds.

[hc4361]

It is never okay to touch people that you are not intimate with, and I can't understand why some people think it is

[ummmm]

You have to know someone well enough. It's as simple as that.

[Kathyan]

If she didn't like it then why didn't she tell him there and then not to do it? It's alright pulling faces and moving his hand but telling him in no uncertain terms would have been better, on TV or not!

[anneasquith]

She appears uncomfortable .

[ummmm]

It's unprofessional.

[hc4361]

Kathyan, too many people would accuse her of over reacting and being 'precious', and she knows it. She was in a very awkward situation.

[woofgang]

I don't think its so much to do with sex directly as to do with arrogance....disrespect. In fact plain old bad manners. the sort of bad manners that says "I am more important than you...I don't have to consider your wishes or feelings"

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat
Just like the 'racist' word it is due to over publication of the cry "sexual assault" at every given opportunity, that is causing the more serious sexual accusations not to be taken more seriously.

I don't suppose that I have worded this correctly, but I know what it means and what I am trying to get across.

[Zacs-Master]

No one has claimed it constitutes sexual assault AOG. It’s an invasion of privacy and an clearly, from her reaction, unwanted advance.