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Votes For 16: Wales Voting Reforms See Voting Age Lowered
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Good ! If people are being taxed, then they deserve the right to vote...why not ?
Good ! If people are being taxed, then they deserve the right to vote...why not ?
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If it increases turnout by preventing apathy then it’s a good thing. We need to engage young people with politics.
08:44 Sun 28th Jan 2018
Talbot, //How many ABers can honestly say they had the remotest interest in politics at 16 years old?//
I did, but apart from my dreamier moments when I thought the best way to end war was to put all the politicians in a room to fight it out between themselves (that youthful idealism you see – Jeremy would have loved me), my opinions were most definitely shaped by my working class socialist parents who extolled the virtues of Communist Russia – never having seen life in Communist Russia.
I did, but apart from my dreamier moments when I thought the best way to end war was to put all the politicians in a room to fight it out between themselves (that youthful idealism you see – Jeremy would have loved me), my opinions were most definitely shaped by my working class socialist parents who extolled the virtues of Communist Russia – never having seen life in Communist Russia.
women were denied everything though not just the vote, to be a doctor, to be a lawyer, and so forth, and their money, property was given to the man on their marriage, now we wouldn't countenance such a thing. I wouldn't have been mature enough at 16, though i thought i was, to vote, you does don't see enough of life at that age.
Mikey, //I repeat, if young people, in general, were "mature enough" to vote Tory, you would support this move to the hilt.//
No … I wouldn’t. Sixteen year olds are too young to be given the vote.
//And you assertion that young people were immature and that is why they voted Labour, is breath taking in its bigotry.//
Oh dear ... and there's me not carrying an oxygen bottle to help you out. However, back to the subject. That is why they voted Labour, Mikey. They were immature enough to believe Jeremy’s spiel. (Sorry Mikey …. but you believed it too, and I don’t really know what to say about that).
//Would you have supported the notion, that women were too silly and "immature" to be allowed the vote ?//
I don’t understand your analogy between immature youth and adult women. What are you talking about?
No … I wouldn’t. Sixteen year olds are too young to be given the vote.
//And you assertion that young people were immature and that is why they voted Labour, is breath taking in its bigotry.//
Oh dear ... and there's me not carrying an oxygen bottle to help you out. However, back to the subject. That is why they voted Labour, Mikey. They were immature enough to believe Jeremy’s spiel. (Sorry Mikey …. but you believed it too, and I don’t really know what to say about that).
//Would you have supported the notion, that women were too silly and "immature" to be allowed the vote ?//
I don’t understand your analogy between immature youth and adult women. What are you talking about?
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/// So what you are saying then Naomi, is that 16 and 17 years olds shouldn't be allowed to vote, as they might vote for the wrong Party, ie Labour ! ///
If that was a reason she would be saying that ethnic minorities shouldn't be allowed to vote, after all aren't they Labour's core voters?
/// So what you are saying then Naomi, is that 16 and 17 years olds shouldn't be allowed to vote, as they might vote for the wrong Party, ie Labour ! ///
If that was a reason she would be saying that ethnic minorities shouldn't be allowed to vote, after all aren't they Labour's core voters?
Gromit -Talbot,
I first election(s) I remember was 1974, I was 10 and I knew exactly which party I would vote for.
Then you were a very unusual kid, Gromit.
At least your not one of these 'My great grandad voted Labour, My grandad voted Labour, My dad voted Labour ... so I'm voting Labour.
I've never understood that mentality.
I first election(s) I remember was 1974, I was 10 and I knew exactly which party I would vote for.
Then you were a very unusual kid, Gromit.
At least your not one of these 'My great grandad voted Labour, My grandad voted Labour, My dad voted Labour ... so I'm voting Labour.
I've never understood that mentality.
If voting is based on perceived ‘maturity’ then we would never be able to have an election. In 2010 4 million people wasted their vote and put a cross next to UKIP. But it didn’t have a (direct) effect on the election outcome.
The only time 16 year olds have voted in the UK was in the Scottish Independence Referendum. 70% of them voted FOR independence. But the result went the other way. Which is fine.
The only time 16 year olds have voted in the UK was in the Scottish Independence Referendum. 70% of them voted FOR independence. But the result went the other way. Which is fine.
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