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End Of Grid Girls......
....In Formula 1
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"While the practice of employing grid girls has been a staple of Formula 1 grands prix for decades, we feel this custom does not resonate with our brand values and clearly is at odds with modern day societal norms," Bratches added.
Do you agree or not , with the move ?
Should the ban be extended to other Motor Sports formulas ?
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"While the practice of employing grid girls has been a staple of Formula 1 grands prix for decades, we feel this custom does not resonate with our brand values and clearly is at odds with modern day societal norms," Bratches added.
Do you agree or not , with the move ?
Should the ban be extended to other Motor Sports formulas ?
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//yes I agree, it is outdated and it is time that we stopped pretending that it's 1974 and 'totty' and 'eye-candy' belong in a sports arena. //
if not in the sports arena, where would "eye candy" belong Andy?
it doesn't matter how good the education system ever gets in the UK, there will be some whose only asset is their appearance. so far as I can tell, these types of job are advertised, and candidates are interviewed, and if accepted they take the job, or not. no-one points a gun at their head and forces them into it, and none of the candidates can be under any illusion as to the job description. but they still apply.
what alternative career options could you suggest to a girl whose only plus is that they look good, now that such an avenue is rapidly closing off?
if not in the sports arena, where would "eye candy" belong Andy?
it doesn't matter how good the education system ever gets in the UK, there will be some whose only asset is their appearance. so far as I can tell, these types of job are advertised, and candidates are interviewed, and if accepted they take the job, or not. no-one points a gun at their head and forces them into it, and none of the candidates can be under any illusion as to the job description. but they still apply.
what alternative career options could you suggest to a girl whose only plus is that they look good, now that such an avenue is rapidly closing off?
see I just read the grid girl's post and she makes a lot of fair points.....except....well....I am old and cynical......but it put me in mind of when the Miss World Contest was losing popularity and overnight all the contestants turned into undergraduates who believed in human rights and world peace. if she had said "look its money for old rope, its putting me through Uni and the drooling idiots love it" well it would have been more believable IMO
mushroom - // if not in the sports arena, where would "eye candy" belong Andy? //
I think that's rather the point, in 2018, 'eye candy' doesn't actually belong anywhere.
//it doesn't matter how good the education system ever gets in the UK, there will be some whose only asset is their appearance. so far as I can tell, these types of job are advertised, and candidates are interviewed, and if accepted they take the job, or not. no-one points a gun at their head and forces them into it, and none of the candidates can be under any illusion as to the job description. but they still apply. //
That's a poor argument - just because it can be done means it's alright to do it.
Let's extrapolate that logic shall we?
I am sure that if I walked into a primary school playground at end--f-school time, I could find two parents who, if offered £100 each, would agree for their ten-year-old son to fight another ten-year-old while I watch.
An extreme example? Of course it is - but then, according to your approach, no-one is holding a gun to anyone's head, money is being made, entertainment is the end result, so it's OK to do it.
//what alternative career options could you suggest to a girl whose only plus is that they look good, now that such an avenue is rapidly closing off?//
I don't believe there is a woman on the planet whose only 'plus' is that she 'looks good', and that sort of condescension is what allows this sort of nonsense to continue well past a time when it should have been consigned to social history where it belongs.
I think that's rather the point, in 2018, 'eye candy' doesn't actually belong anywhere.
//it doesn't matter how good the education system ever gets in the UK, there will be some whose only asset is their appearance. so far as I can tell, these types of job are advertised, and candidates are interviewed, and if accepted they take the job, or not. no-one points a gun at their head and forces them into it, and none of the candidates can be under any illusion as to the job description. but they still apply. //
That's a poor argument - just because it can be done means it's alright to do it.
Let's extrapolate that logic shall we?
I am sure that if I walked into a primary school playground at end--f-school time, I could find two parents who, if offered £100 each, would agree for their ten-year-old son to fight another ten-year-old while I watch.
An extreme example? Of course it is - but then, according to your approach, no-one is holding a gun to anyone's head, money is being made, entertainment is the end result, so it's OK to do it.
//what alternative career options could you suggest to a girl whose only plus is that they look good, now that such an avenue is rapidly closing off?//
I don't believe there is a woman on the planet whose only 'plus' is that she 'looks good', and that sort of condescension is what allows this sort of nonsense to continue well past a time when it should have been consigned to social history where it belongs.
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Spath - // "The issue at the moment is there are too many people being offended on behalf of people who are not offended at all! " //
I don't think the argument is really quite that simple.
What we have to ask ourselves, as a society is, just because something has gone on for some time, is it still something we wish to continue, and does it chime with changing attitudes in society as a whole?
This approach can be applied right across society in so many different ways.
Things which were simply accepted as 'the norm' in times gone by, are not longer tolerated, because society moves on, and evolves, as it must.
There will always be people who see nothing whatsoever wrong in loads of areas where changes have taken place - but as a rule, society finds its own level, and when the majority wish for a change, it happens, and it stays in place.
In the same way that people no longer think Page Three pinups are actually a good use of national newapaper space, the 'grid girls' may become a thing of the past.
But to suggest that it is simply people being offended because they can is, in my view, distracting from the actual situation, and where it goes from here.
I don't think the argument is really quite that simple.
What we have to ask ourselves, as a society is, just because something has gone on for some time, is it still something we wish to continue, and does it chime with changing attitudes in society as a whole?
This approach can be applied right across society in so many different ways.
Things which were simply accepted as 'the norm' in times gone by, are not longer tolerated, because society moves on, and evolves, as it must.
There will always be people who see nothing whatsoever wrong in loads of areas where changes have taken place - but as a rule, society finds its own level, and when the majority wish for a change, it happens, and it stays in place.
In the same way that people no longer think Page Three pinups are actually a good use of national newapaper space, the 'grid girls' may become a thing of the past.
But to suggest that it is simply people being offended because they can is, in my view, distracting from the actual situation, and where it goes from here.
"Offended" is much too strong a word, but as we are all affected by the idea that women exist for men's entertainment, everyone has the right to see it as the old-fashioned nonsense it is. Spathi, you were upset about 13 year olds on Twitter able to see a naked body... which is harmless. But happy with children growing up infused with this caveman type stuff?
'Eye candy' belongs on answerbank when the great and good (including myself) are listing their fantasy burdz.
That's okay though because it's a purely academic exercise designed to put oneself in a pecking order of who likes the poshest totty and not to be confused with fantasising about lasses on the telly earning an honest living.
That's okay though because it's a purely academic exercise designed to put oneself in a pecking order of who likes the poshest totty and not to be confused with fantasising about lasses on the telly earning an honest living.
douglas - // 'Eye candy' belongs on answerbank when the great and good (including myself) are listing their fantasy burdz.
That's okay though because it's a purely academic exercise designed to put oneself in a pecking order of who likes the poshest totty and not to be confused with fantasising about lasses on the telly earning an honest living. //
I think you referring to adult women as 'lasses' offers a hint as to where you stand on the issue - ?
That's okay though because it's a purely academic exercise designed to put oneself in a pecking order of who likes the poshest totty and not to be confused with fantasising about lasses on the telly earning an honest living. //
I think you referring to adult women as 'lasses' offers a hint as to where you stand on the issue - ?
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mushroom - // /Katie Price is a millionaire businesswoman who has parlayed her physical attraction into a business empire. //
now, yes. not in 1996 when she started her career as a Sun page 3 model. willing to bet she wouldn't be a millionaire in 20 years if she were starting her career now. //
That's a hypothetical - and completely off the point we are discussing.
My point is that Katie Price had more than being physically attractive to help her make her way in the world - because every single woman on earth, past present and future, has more than physical attraction - unless you wish to view them simply in terms of how good they look on a Formula One podium.
Personally, I think any and all women are worth more respect than that.
now, yes. not in 1996 when she started her career as a Sun page 3 model. willing to bet she wouldn't be a millionaire in 20 years if she were starting her career now. //
That's a hypothetical - and completely off the point we are discussing.
My point is that Katie Price had more than being physically attractive to help her make her way in the world - because every single woman on earth, past present and future, has more than physical attraction - unless you wish to view them simply in terms of how good they look on a Formula One podium.
Personally, I think any and all women are worth more respect than that.
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