End Of Grid Girls......

[Bazile]

....In Formula 1


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/42890261

"While the practice of employing grid girls has been a staple of Formula 1 grands prix for decades, we feel this custom does not resonate with our brand values and clearly is at odds with modern day societal norms," Bratches added.

Do you agree or not , with the move ?

Should the ban be extended to other Motor Sports formulas ?

[pixie374]

Parents are always the role models- I think you are overestimating the influence of celebrities, but in any case, she probably has a point. I don't see why you see that as harmful in some way, but this as normal?

[Deskdiary]

Fat ugly humourless women rejoice.

No longer will there be pretty girls on the grid to body shame you.

Hurrah.

[Deskdiary]

Hannah James has summed up the situation perfectly. As she is directly affected her opinion is the most important.

[woofgang]

more important that her employer? I doubt it!

[pixie374]

I guess the people who feel the need for this service must be trout-faced old men... going by the replies :-)

[hereIam]

No comparison with the Kardsahian woman - these girls are trying to make a living the other is just a exhibitionist.

[hereIam]

^ 'an'

[andy-hughes]

Deskdiary - // Fat ugly humourless women rejoice.

No longer will there be pretty girls on the grid to body shame you.

Hurrah. //

As I have said in a previous post, I think the debate is a lot wider than whether or not 'fat ugly humourless women' are involved.

Are you suggesting that slim pretty women with a sense of humour (not sure where that comes in - ?) all think that 'grid girls' are a great idea?

[andy-hughes]

Deskdiary - // Hannah James has summed up the situation perfectly. As she is directly affected her opinion is the most important. //

Her opinion is obviously valid, but then so are the opinions of people not directly affected.

I don't think that direct involvement in anything automatically infers superiority on a viewpoint.

[Booldawg]

I think the ban is great for gender balance. Non academic females will have to resort to mundane, blue collar jobs rather than using their looks as a form of income.

[pixie374]

They will always be able to do that bool, it's about appropriate times and places.

[-Talbot-]

So it is agreed ... there should be an end to the Grid Girls.


Let's move on to another thread, shall we ...

Pull your best Cosmo Smallpiece face and wax lyrical about Victoria Coren Mitchell's assets fwhoar .........

[andy-hughes]

spath - // Andy, i have to disagree there. Role models are made by individualy. The media has nothing to do with them. IE, my dad could be my role model? //

Personally, when I refer to 'role models' I am always referring to the nonsensical label pinned on famous people who don't ask for it, need it, want it, and most cases, do not deserve it.

// However, this woman is in the public eye a lot, making her a natural role model for some individually that choose to idolise her (like thousands of young girls do.. hence the whole show about her life) //

I don't think that connection is valid at all - Donald Trump is in the public eye, but that doesn't make him a role model.

I also don't believe Ms. Kardashian is 'idolised' at all.

I think she fills a need for pointless gawping and gossiping by a section of the community who take it no more seriously than they do the plot of EastEnders. The notion that people actually look to Ms Kardashian as an example of how to live is, frankly, ludicrous.

The media has got itself into a lather about the 'lifestyles' of the rich and famous since people became stars - on film, as musicians, and now as 'celebrities'.

I remember when The Rolling Stones were going to bring down civilisation as new know it - then it was The Sex Pistols, it's all fluff and it's all nonsense, but, and this is the important point, consumers of this stuff know that is it nonsense, there is no 'role modelling' going on here.

// Also with the naked tweets being re-tweeted by women with captions such as "how liberating" or "feminism at its finest, she can do what she pleases", especially when she's so successful and liberated, not to mention her body confidence. How inspiring. //

I don''t think anyone seriously believes that Kim Kardashian exposing herself in the media is remotely 'empowering' - it's another media construct.

Mick Jagger was never gong to steal way with my sisters, Johnny Rotten wasn't actually Satan incarnate (I've met him, charming and witty man) and Kim Kardashiam is neither an example of empowerment, or a role model of any meaningful kind.

// i'm afraid, without any media influence (because i haven't seen them slate her) she's still a role model for many young girls. //

Ms. Kardashian's personna is nothing but media influence! Without them publicising her, she becomes what she actually is, an averagely attractive woman married to a seriously wealthy pop star with persoanlity issues.

The rest is fluff, nothing but fluff, and no-one, especially her 'followers' actually thinks it is anything else.
You only have to look at her Instagram or twitter to see her kind of audience, influence, and reach.

[murraymints]

I once worked for a sales promotions company and did car shows..bike shows..large sales conventions..ideal homes etc etc as a look nice wear this..smile and hand out drinks..leaflets....girl...it was a bleeping hard slog..and we earned our wages.. notwithstanding the odd accidental and strategic spilling of drinks and stiletto on the feet of the lotharios thing their luck.... Just a job really..

[andy-hughes]

Oops - sorry, that last bit should have been cut out from there and put in quoptes for a response -

//You only have to look at her Instagram or twitter to see her kind of audience, influence, and reach. //

Audience? Unquestionably.

Influence and reach? I really don't think so.

[murraymints]

Trying ^^

[Islay]

I love how if you raise an objection to this your fat and ugly!!
Earlier on it was suggested that I was jealous because I wasn't asked to be one!
Firstly - I don't care if these girls wish to parade around in a pair of knickers and a vest!
Secondly - my parents would have disowned me had I even suggested doing something like this!
Thirdly - what was acceptable in the 70's is simply no longer acceptable with the majority these days.

[-Talbot-]

Thirdly - what was acceptable in the 70's is simply no longer acceptable with the majority these days.


Have you run a poll, Islay?

[Togo]

Haha. I'M glad I went out for a walk and a swift pint with "the lads".

//I think that's rather the point, in 2018, 'eye candy' doesn't actually belong anywhere.//

If women feel that way .........why do they wear make up, and clothes to enhance what they perceive to be their best assets,their appearances, when venturing out into the testosterone charged world? Surely they are not making an attempt to be............... eye candy? I agree they should all wear balaclavas and boiler suits......or has that been done.