Can We Now Discuss This Case?

[anotheoldgit]

ABSpareEditor

I don't know if this was the story that we can't debate on, but according to the Daily Mail reporting restrictions were lifted this afternoon.

[THECORBYLOON]

Thanks NAILIT but TALBOT is the expert so I'd rather wait for his input.

[Gromit]

Tamborine,
// Left to you AH & press embargo, we might never have known of the current case //

The current case is not secret. It is a result of Operation Tendersea, which has been reported on nationally. That investigation has resulted in 3 trials. The first trial has concluded, but we do not know the result yet. I believed the current trial to be the second, and will be concluded shortly. Then another trial will follow. When all three trials are finished, then the verdicts on all the defendants will be made public.
The trials are listed by the Court and the public can know that.
Robinson was not exposing anything that is not already in the public domain. The police, judicary and CPS have been dealing with this for a year. Their hard work has led to these trials. Robinson did not stumble on a cover up, he probably read about it in the Daily Mirror (see link below).
Robinson’s motive was to get publicity for Tommy Robinson. He is a professional activist, and makes lots of money from donations from other right wing fools.


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/twenty-seven-men-charged-historic-10086968

[Jackdaw33]

So, 'He pleaded guilty' is wrong then? Well I never. Back to school for me, then.

[Mamyalynne]

Both are fine.

[nailit]

Well reasoned and thought out response there Corby. Is there a point?

[10ClarionSt]

What a let down. No interest there at all, really is there? I thought Ed was talking about a 'D' notice!

[anneasquith]

Sorry gromit, I think you are wasting your time ( again). :-)

[THECORBYLOON]

JD, "pled" and "pleaded" are equally acceptable and I meant only that you were incorrect about my use of pled.

[Jackdaw33]

//JD, "pled" and "pleaded" are equally acceptable \\

Not in my vocabulary, but then again I only speak the Queen's English.

[anneasquith]

Jack, see mamyas link re pled .

[Jackdaw33]

I have seen it and I don't accept it. It is a corruption on the part of those who claim to speak English but don't really.

[anneasquith]

Oh OK , :-)

[jim360]

I wonder if there's a connection between people obsessed with speaking "proper" English (that is, the English of their childhood, under an apparent delusion that 'twas ever thus), and people obsessed with preserving "English culture" generally (that is, the English culture of their childhood, under an apparent delusion that 'twas ever thus).

The reality is, of course, that both language and culture are constantly in flux. Trying to freeze either in place is, at best, misguided.

[THECORBYLOON]

JD, no doubt there are many who will choose to be leaded by your example...

[Jackdaw33]

That is plain stupid, Corby.

[vetuste_ennemi]

//...people obsessed with preserving "English culture" generally (that is, the English culture of their childhood, under an apparent delusion that 'twas ever thus)...
The reality is, of course, that both language and culture are constantly in flux. Trying to freeze either in place is, at best, misguided.//

Extraordinary post from you, Jim. Are you sure you're describing real people?

Let's rephrase part of your post ever so slightly and talk about wanting to preserve one's culture. Isn't that usually viewed as a natural attitude, one to be applauded even?

Respect and affection for one's culture are not usually derided as obsessions held by obscurantists.

Or is European culture, and especially its English variant, a special case?

[Spicerack]

'Robinson was not exposing anything that is not already in the public domain.'

Seeing as you're leading for the AB prosecution team, Gromit, you might want to keep that a little quiet.

[Gromit]

Spicerack
You are right.
Though the prosecutions and Court cases are not secret, what Robinson did was interfere with witnesses (by talking with them), and publishing their image (by broadcasting live), both of which are illegal under the Reporting Restrictions.

A tad ironic that Robinson asked the defendants “Is that your prison bag” when they turned up to Court with an holdall, only for him to be in chokey (minus a bag) a few hours later.

[Togo]

//Pleaded is the standard past tense and past participle of the verb plea. Pled has always been considered incorrect by people who make such judgments, but it is so common that we have to accept it as an alternative form. And pled is not just an Americanism, as some have claimed. It appears just as often (about one pled for every twenty pleaded) in current British and Canadian news publications. Australians are the exception; they still seem to shun pled almost completely.//


So 1 in 20 don't care that it just doesn't scan, and sounds even worse than in reads. I would wager that it's use on this thread came up when someone paraphrased an American source.

[THECORBYLOON]

I looked at a few sites for confirmation as to whether he had admitted his guilt and they said he had "pleaded guilty" but as I say "pled" that's what I used.