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Brexit: Think Again
Michael Morpurgo argues it's time to think again over Brexit.
"It is surely time to accept that we have made a mistake", he writes, "that whichever way we voted, things are not turning out the way we expected".
"Or are we too proud?" he asks.
Listen, if you're not one of the shouty brigade, to Morpurgo's reasoned argument on BBC4's Point of View
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It's only ten minutes long, and will give you cause/pause for thought.
BillB
"It is surely time to accept that we have made a mistake", he writes, "that whichever way we voted, things are not turning out the way we expected".
"Or are we too proud?" he asks.
Listen, if you're not one of the shouty brigade, to Morpurgo's reasoned argument on BBC4's Point of View
https:/
It's only ten minutes long, and will give you cause/pause for thought.
BillB
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Sir Michael Andrew Bridge Morpurgo, OBE, FRSL, FKC, DL is an English book author, poet, playwright, and librettist who is known best for children's novels such as War Horse. Although aimed primarily at young people, these can be read by people of all ages. I have heard him talk and it was one of the most enjoyable talks I have been to. Will listen to his argument...
10:23 Sun 05th Aug 2018
/// Once the others here have actually LISTENED to Morpurgo's short talk, I'll respond to them. As of now, they are just SHOUTY brigade members. What's the motto, people? Shout first think later? (Oh bliss, think at all would be a start) ///
What on Earth puts you ahead in the IQ Stakes, you can not even use italics. You frequently put peoples intelligence down on AB then go on to ask the most basic of questions on Technology that a toddler could answer, you appear to be well up your own ***
What on Earth puts you ahead in the IQ Stakes, you can not even use italics. You frequently put peoples intelligence down on AB then go on to ask the most basic of questions on Technology that a toddler could answer, you appear to be well up your own ***
‘So let's leave it at this then: it's not what they do, it's the fact that they can do it that is the issue. That way we won't get bogged down with light-bulbs‘
I’ll take that to read ‘it doesn’t affect my life at all but I have this massive chip on my shoulder which jaundices my thinking on the subject’
When pressed, non of you leave voters can come up with a single thing to demonstrate how the EU affects your daily life. It’s all ‘potential’ this and ‘could’ that.
I’ll take that to read ‘it doesn’t affect my life at all but I have this massive chip on my shoulder which jaundices my thinking on the subject’
When pressed, non of you leave voters can come up with a single thing to demonstrate how the EU affects your daily life. It’s all ‘potential’ this and ‘could’ that.
Bainbrig has had the courage to say what i’ve often thought but been too polite to say :-)
NJ has his views which I respect and they are often made clearly if somewhat lengthily but I don’t think that the title ‘judge’ should imbue them with any more weight than anyone else’s.
The crux of all this, which we run round eternally, is that there’s no one idea of what ‘Brexit’ means. That’s what it comes back to constantly.
The other thing is no doubt everyone (excepting perhaps the rather more sinister Bannonites) want is what they think is best for the UK regardless of ideology
NJ has his views which I respect and they are often made clearly if somewhat lengthily but I don’t think that the title ‘judge’ should imbue them with any more weight than anyone else’s.
The crux of all this, which we run round eternally, is that there’s no one idea of what ‘Brexit’ means. That’s what it comes back to constantly.
The other thing is no doubt everyone (excepting perhaps the rather more sinister Bannonites) want is what they think is best for the UK regardless of ideology
Garaman// The European Union was set up just after the Second World War hoping to end the frequent wars between neighbours. It has done a very good job in that regard as Khandro acknowledges.//
Khandro acknowledges nothing of the sort. Firstly you are wrong on when the EU was set up -and it wasn't the "EU"
World War II ended in 1945, yet the EC was not created until the signing of the Treaty of Rome in 1957. Why was there not a war in the 12 years from 1945 to 1957?
Peace has been preserved by the US presence in Europe and NATO, not by a Brussels bureaucracy .
Khandro acknowledges nothing of the sort. Firstly you are wrong on when the EU was set up -and it wasn't the "EU"
World War II ended in 1945, yet the EC was not created until the signing of the Treaty of Rome in 1957. Why was there not a war in the 12 years from 1945 to 1957?
Peace has been preserved by the US presence in Europe and NATO, not by a Brussels bureaucracy .
//Why was there not a war in the 12 years from 1945 to 1957? //
Because leaders of some European countries got together straight after the war in an attempt to end nationalism, which had been causing conflict between European countries. Their idea was to form a union with a common goal. It hasn't been perfect by any means, but as regards ending conflict it has been successful.
Because leaders of some European countries got together straight after the war in an attempt to end nationalism, which had been causing conflict between European countries. Their idea was to form a union with a common goal. It hasn't been perfect by any means, but as regards ending conflict it has been successful.
Zacs, it isn't the specific examples, that you are so keen to uncover, that is the issue, it's the lack of control and where it presently is. It always was, asking for examples is simply a “red herring”. But if you insist, off the top of my head, I'd say every time we are banned from a decent weed-killer, or a good paint stripper, or a particular type of lightbulb, or a desired vacuum cleaner above a certain wattage, we see examples of the EU causing us disadvantage. Really, you wanted the info, not others, you should do the research rather than say there are no examples and then claim you have got one up on others who opt not to do your work for you simply because you ordered it.
Bain, I'm at a loss to see why folk who show or argue against the nonsense in the clip are labelled "shouty" yet not those who wish to support it. One can't just dismiss things like that. Just because something is said in a soft and unjustified air of authority it doesn't make it right. It merely makes it more likely to fool folk into thinking it's right due to the tone of the voice rather than what is actually said.
Bain, I'm at a loss to see why folk who show or argue against the nonsense in the clip are labelled "shouty" yet not those who wish to support it. One can't just dismiss things like that. Just because something is said in a soft and unjustified air of authority it doesn't make it right. It merely makes it more likely to fool folk into thinking it's right due to the tone of the voice rather than what is actually said.
I haven’t ‘ordered’ anyone to do anything. I’ve ‘asked’. It’s fairly standard debating procedure to back up ones statements when challenged, otherwise we end up with a playground scenario like your ‘you go and do it then’ one which is childish in the extreme.
As for the examples you give (weed killer For Funks Sake!) they’re hardly worth the hassle which Brexit is causing are they?
As for the examples you give (weed killer For Funks Sake!) they’re hardly worth the hassle which Brexit is causing are they?
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