Since there seem to be endless arguments in various threads on AB, maybe we should have a referendum to see how many British people think the burka/niqab should be banned or not in the UK. Though, judging by the result of the Brexit referendum, this would not make much difference, as one set of people would not accept the result and would argue on.
You don't seem to understand, AOG,
There are *no* rules at present, and so the woman wasn't contravening any. She was embarassed and humiliated by the driver's request and (regardless of your opinion) she wasn't doing anything wrong.
And I would say the same about any sort of circumstance where someone was instructed to do 'something' on the say-so of a single person lacking any sort of authority to do so.
See my question at 15.17, requesting clarification of yours at 15.15....
Ex London bus driver here.
As far as I am aware the bus driver although employed by First Bus would have been operating under applicable TFLs rules and procedures.
There is no rule to ask for a veil, niqab, burka or balaclava to be removed to board the bus. All the person needs is a valid ticket/travelcard. Any fraudulent use of a card is not the drivers problem, thats for the revenue inspectors to ascertain.
Driver should have been reported and had a Disciplinary Meeting and retrained where necessary. Might have resulted in a sacking, dependent on his previous work record.
But they must have had something to base the disciplinary procedure on, or the RMT would have been shouting 'unfair'.
The woman had done nothing wrong. The bus driver did. If you can't see than then you need to take a pause and take a long hard look at yourself and your opinions.
Much as you are welcome to form thoughts about me, please be careful what you put in print (No, I didn't report it, actually I'd rather it had stayed - said much more about you than it did me).
how would the driver know know if she was the person in the photo
assuming the person had a photo within the id of themselves ?
without a veil or do they not have show their faces in id's either including passports..
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