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Fired For Refusing Poppies?
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that's how the headline reads - but it's not how it was reported on TV last night, nor indeed is it said in the text of the article. The police are investigating not the refusal, but threats made after the event. and the driver wasn't dismissed for refusing to transport poppies, but for falsifying his job card.
all very strange, eh?
that's how the headline reads - but it's not how it was reported on TV last night, nor indeed is it said in the text of the article. The police are investigating not the refusal, but threats made after the event. and the driver wasn't dismissed for refusing to transport poppies, but for falsifying his job card.
all very strange, eh?
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The media are really good at slanting facts to make them appear very different than they actually are.
The Daily Mail got itself all worked up on its front page earlier this week about one of the 911 bombers - the 'treasurer' for the plotters, who has been released and has returned home to Pakistan.
The Mail shrieked that he was being 'hailed as a hero ...' - when in fact he was simply being welcomed back by his friends and neighbours who haven't seen him for a few years.
This does not detract from his heinous crime, but it does put an untrue slant on the facts - he was not 'welcomed back as a hero … ' at all, merely welcomed back by friends and neighbours, which is not the same thing at all.
That's what the media does - why let the facts get in the way of whipping up some religious bigotry?
The Daily Mail got itself all worked up on its front page earlier this week about one of the 911 bombers - the 'treasurer' for the plotters, who has been released and has returned home to Pakistan.
The Mail shrieked that he was being 'hailed as a hero ...' - when in fact he was simply being welcomed back by his friends and neighbours who haven't seen him for a few years.
This does not detract from his heinous crime, but it does put an untrue slant on the facts - he was not 'welcomed back as a hero … ' at all, merely welcomed back by friends and neighbours, which is not the same thing at all.
That's what the media does - why let the facts get in the way of whipping up some religious bigotry?
Togo - // No name no pack drill Mushroom.....but we just know do we not that the driver was of a certain persuasion. Didn't even have the decency to tell his boss that he wouldn't do the job, but falsified his log instead to show that he had. Bakers and the like get prosecuted for less. //
Nowhere in the news piece does it confirm the religious persuasion of the driver, not does it confirm any reason why he failed to complete the job.
The taxi firm - and the media, have taken two and two and made twenty-two.
If the driver refused to take the poppies because it offended his faith, or because he simply doesn't agree with them, then fine - but there is no evidence whatsoever that this is the case.
Nowhere in the news piece does it confirm the religious persuasion of the driver, not does it confirm any reason why he failed to complete the job.
The taxi firm - and the media, have taken two and two and made twenty-two.
If the driver refused to take the poppies because it offended his faith, or because he simply doesn't agree with them, then fine - but there is no evidence whatsoever that this is the case.
Do you think that it counts as a hate crime? Wasn't there a case where "a taxi driver" refused to transport a blind person and his dog?
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andy-hughes
/// If the driver refused to take the poppies because it offended his faith, or because he simply doesn't agree with them, then fine - but there is no evidence whatsoever that this is the case. ///
I think this statement by KMR cars explains matters.
/// KMR Cars does not tolerate bias on the grounds of Race, Religion, Beliefs, Sex, Gender, Disability or other. ///
/// If the driver refused to take the poppies because it offended his faith, or because he simply doesn't agree with them, then fine - but there is no evidence whatsoever that this is the case. ///
I think this statement by KMR cars explains matters.
/// KMR Cars does not tolerate bias on the grounds of Race, Religion, Beliefs, Sex, Gender, Disability or other. ///
andy-hughes
/// he was not 'welcomed back as a hero … ' at all, merely welcomed back by friends and neighbours, which is not the same thing at
all. ///
What has that got to do with this thread?
But to address the point, It does not say the whole nation welcomed him back a hero, but perhaps his friends and neighbours did, you or I were not there so who's to say?
/// he was not 'welcomed back as a hero … ' at all, merely welcomed back by friends and neighbours, which is not the same thing at
all. ///
What has that got to do with this thread?
But to address the point, It does not say the whole nation welcomed him back a hero, but perhaps his friends and neighbours did, you or I were not there so who's to say?
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KMR Cars
23 hours ago
In regard to the allegations made on the 01/11/18. KMR Cars have completed the full investigation Please see summary points of the Investigation below:
In regard to how we had seen the journey at the office. We had taken the call of the booking at ‘13:01’. We then ‘Dispatched’ the journey to the driver at ‘13:01’. The drivers ‘Vehicle Arrived Time’ was ‘13:19’. His ‘Picked up’ time was ‘13:19’ and His ‘Job Completed’ time was ‘13:19’.
Therefore, on our system it had shown that the journey had been completed by the driver, which clearly had not been.Which shows that the driver had lied about even picking up the journey and completing the job. Due to this gross negligence of the driver and incompetence by not alerting the office of him not picking up the passenger. KMR Cars have dismissed the Driver who cannot be named (due to Data Protection Act) and He shall no longer be representing KMR Cars any longer.
All drivers are vetted and Licensed by their local council, therefore this matter has also been reported to Enforcement at Birmingham City Council (the identified drivers council) and the drivers’ details such as Badge Number, Vehicle Details have now been passed on to them and they are looking into this as a matter of urgency. We are now working with the Birmingham City Council regarding this issue and are assisting them in any way possible.
Once again we would like to reiterate KMR Cars as a company acknowledges and has the most utmost respect for those who fought and put their lives on the line for all of us present today and must be deservedly be remembered on Remembrance Sunday with the poppy being of a symbol of such sacrifice. KMR Cars has a ZERO PERCENT policy on any single staff/driver/customer who wishes to defame any remembrance/religious views. KMR Cars does not tolerate bias on the grounds of Race, Religion, Beliefs, Sex, Gender, Disability or other.
KMR Cars would like to apologise for the outrage that has been a result of this incident whilst we have needed time to gather information.
The company would like to thank those of you that have been patient in this matter and again reiterate that KMR Cars is grateful to our fallen heroes and are happy to have poppies in the vehicle as we have for a number of years preceding this incident. ❤
23 hours ago
In regard to the allegations made on the 01/11/18. KMR Cars have completed the full investigation Please see summary points of the Investigation below:
In regard to how we had seen the journey at the office. We had taken the call of the booking at ‘13:01’. We then ‘Dispatched’ the journey to the driver at ‘13:01’. The drivers ‘Vehicle Arrived Time’ was ‘13:19’. His ‘Picked up’ time was ‘13:19’ and His ‘Job Completed’ time was ‘13:19’.
Therefore, on our system it had shown that the journey had been completed by the driver, which clearly had not been.Which shows that the driver had lied about even picking up the journey and completing the job. Due to this gross negligence of the driver and incompetence by not alerting the office of him not picking up the passenger. KMR Cars have dismissed the Driver who cannot be named (due to Data Protection Act) and He shall no longer be representing KMR Cars any longer.
All drivers are vetted and Licensed by their local council, therefore this matter has also been reported to Enforcement at Birmingham City Council (the identified drivers council) and the drivers’ details such as Badge Number, Vehicle Details have now been passed on to them and they are looking into this as a matter of urgency. We are now working with the Birmingham City Council regarding this issue and are assisting them in any way possible.
Once again we would like to reiterate KMR Cars as a company acknowledges and has the most utmost respect for those who fought and put their lives on the line for all of us present today and must be deservedly be remembered on Remembrance Sunday with the poppy being of a symbol of such sacrifice. KMR Cars has a ZERO PERCENT policy on any single staff/driver/customer who wishes to defame any remembrance/religious views. KMR Cars does not tolerate bias on the grounds of Race, Religion, Beliefs, Sex, Gender, Disability or other.
KMR Cars would like to apologise for the outrage that has been a result of this incident whilst we have needed time to gather information.
The company would like to thank those of you that have been patient in this matter and again reiterate that KMR Cars is grateful to our fallen heroes and are happy to have poppies in the vehicle as we have for a number of years preceding this incident. ❤
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