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Whoopee! A Third Brexit Option
It is good news that Theresa has now conceded that there are three options.
Bad deal, no deal or ( the obviously best option) no Brexit.
Who could ask for anything more?
Bad deal, no deal or ( the obviously best option) no Brexit.
Who could ask for anything more?
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There was no facts to vote on. It's a big mess that in my opinion, should have been resolved in a different way, whilst staying in the EU, and making our voice a bit louder. There are other ways to achieve an independent nation without throwing any toys out of the pram. It's a shame, but the politics at the moment is like a giant playground, and we're not allowed on the swings because big billy says so.
Ah, wishful thinking PP ? Brexiteers have battled against remoaners who have fone their utmost to encourage the EU to be awkward; and have watched a remainer capitulate whilst in charge of "negotiations". The only group not screwing it up, continually encouraging those in charge to get us out, and yet being maligned as a result, are the Brexiteers.
The main problem with your analysis, OG, is that most Brexiteers had nothing to do with the deal at all. In particular, Farage, Rees-Mogg, and other cheerleaders have had no responsibility whatsoever, preferring to heckle from the sidelines where they could say anything they liked without having to face the consequences.
Theresa May has clearly failed to deliver the deal you hoped for, but she is, to be fair, the only one who's tried.
Theresa May has clearly failed to deliver the deal you hoped for, but she is, to be fair, the only one who's tried.
Perhaps, but others tried for the PM position and my belief is that back room negotiations with the aim of making May PM must have occurred to explain all the dropping out. After that the leaver MPs didn't get the power to achieve more than heckle from the sidelines. And they had a lot to heckle about as this May deal suggestion highlights. Best thing now is to get their 43 (or whatever) letters and get someone in to take over. But time is short. There's businesses who haven't prepared and want another 2 years+ to do more nothing, an EU that deliberately frittered time away on money demands rather than talk trade. Hard Brexit seems the only feasible option left after all that.
"What power / actions could they have took?? Especially farage?"
It's all about tough negotiation rather than failing to negotiate. Clearly no one took May as a serious negotiator and so stood firm against the basic requirements. Others wouldn't have been viewed as, nor been, such a push-over. When they said that if the EU weren't going to be reasonable we'd just leave, they'd have meant it, and folk would know that they meant it.
It's all about tough negotiation rather than failing to negotiate. Clearly no one took May as a serious negotiator and so stood firm against the basic requirements. Others wouldn't have been viewed as, nor been, such a push-over. When they said that if the EU weren't going to be reasonable we'd just leave, they'd have meant it, and folk would know that they meant it.
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