Credit Where It's Due Part 1637.6

[ToraToraTora]

Just listened to Jezza's response to the PM, he's bang on, this is a bungled and botched deal. We have screwed it right up. From a position where we should have had a good hand to play to this disaster. As much as I hate COB Labour and all they stand for, it seems we must rely on them to stop this disaster making it through the house and ensuring we leave with no deal.

[Arrods]

Trouble is, nobody knows what the best deal possible is. We'll only know that in years to come.

[emmie]

walk away with a No Deal seems the next logical step.

[jim360]

Why is that the best option?

[anotheoldgit]

This is the definition of referendum.

/// a general vote by the electorate on a single political question which has been referred to them for a direct decision. ///

Seems to me we are not allowed a decision, once again it is left to those that we put in power.

All we have done is to give them permission to sort it out amongst themselves, is that democracy?

[youngmafbog]

Treason May and the Tories are toast.

I will be voting Corbyn, if only to get that damned woman out of No 10 since there are no real Tories to do it.

[ludwig]

It seems obvious now that we should have had a 'Brexiteer' PM after Cameron fled the scene. Having a remainer delivering Brexit was never going to lead to a good outcome for us.

However, to give her credit, she's united the country. She's produced a 'deal' that absolutely everyone hates.

[Zacs-Master]

It frightens me that most people on here have the vote. The notion that a Labour government should be voted in just to get rid of May is moronic.

[jim360]

It would have looked a lot better if a Brexiter PM had led us here, but they all ran away from that.

[ummmm]

Isn't it just, Zacs!!

[youngmafbog]

" The notion that a Labour government should be voted in just to get rid of May is moronic."

Why? Many on here including jim say they vote tactically - are you calling jim a moron too because I dont think he is.

May is irreversibly damaging our country. COB will do it some damage but since he will be stuck with Bruxelles rule it will be limited.

If May goes and this debacle of an "agreement" is binned then I will reconsider.

Until then I vote Corbyn since there is no one else I can vote for that will remove the Traitor in No 10.

[youngmafbog]

"It would have looked a lot better if a Brexiter PM had led us here, but they all ran away from that."

They were either stabbed in the back or hounded out by the remainer MSM.

[jim360]

I'm so happy that you think I'm not a moron, ymb :)

But to return to your post, it's a frightening prospect, isn't it? A dysfunctional Tory Party, or a dangerous Labour Party.

Perhaps we should switch to the Greens, haha!

[Zacs-Master]

Why?

The very fact that you have to ask proves my point. It's like being sick of being water tortured so you opt to be hung drawn & quartered.

[Zacs-Master]

I haven't called anyone a moron, by the way.

[ludwig]

// there is no one else I can vote for that will remove the Traitor in No 10. //

Why do you say that ? They're already gearing up for a no confidence vote and leadership election.

[youngmafbog]

"I haven't called anyone a moron, by the way."
Oh yes you have.

"" The notion that a Labour government should be voted in just to get rid of May is moronic."
"

Since I wrote that it is a clear inference from you I am moronic. Feel frre to call me all the names you like, but dont try denying it when it's in balck and white just above your porkie.

[youngmafbog]

Ludwig.
See my post above
"If May goes and this debacle of an "agreement" is binned then I will reconsider. "

Until that happens there is no other way and todate no one has grown a pair and properly challenged the deranged arrogant womaon let alone removed her.

[jim360]

There is, to be fair, a difference between calling a person a moron, and calling a notion moronic. It's subtle, but it does exist.

[youngmafbog]

" A dysfunctional Tory Party, or a dangerous Labour Party.

Perhaps we should switch to the Greens, haha!"

Jim, you jest but if the greens had a chance of getting in then yes I would vote for them in the present circumstances.

The problem n this country, which ZM doesn't seem to understand, is that we have a two party system so if you really want to effect change you have to hold your nose and vote tactically.

Just as in the same way many UKIP voters backed "Call me Dave" so they could get the promised vote.

[youngmafbog]

"There is, to be fair, a difference between calling a person a moron, and calling a notion moronic. It's subtle, but it does exist. "

Hmmm. From some ABers I would accept that, and some I wouldn't.