What Will Writing To The Public Achieve?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46332884
we can't do owt it's in the hands of MPs

[jim360]

I can't say I know anyone who thinks this is a good deal either, which is why I too am surprised by the report. However, I do think there's one truth that's unpalatable for the hardline Brexiteers on AB: that many Leave voters were not nearly so ideologically committed to Brexit as you lot are, and that they would gladly accept a poor man's version of it rather than chase shadows. For that matter, I may myself have to get used to the idea that overturning Brexit altogether is probably impossible.

[Theland]

Too cold! Long johns.

[Gromit]

We will inevitably have to join the European Economic Area (EEA).
How long after the 1st April 2019 will we wait for the dust to settle before applying to the EU for EEA membership?

[jim360]

Incidentally, ymb, I appreciate that "polls" is somewhat of a dirty word around here, but still, they are they best we have to meaningfully track what people think, and they tend to paint a pretty consistent picture.

Here, for example, is the Express finding itself surprised by the polling figures:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1048325/theresa-may-no-confidence-vote-jacob-rees-mogg-brexit-deal-no-confidence-letters-poll

Since the Express is about the most committed pro-Brexit paper, I figure it's the best source to use in the circumstances.

[cashier]

Can't see Parliment rejecting this deal. Hammond has been over to sweet talk Arlene Foster to agreeing it, and the rest of Parliament will just cave in.

A lot of the public will go for it, as far as they have any influence in the matter, just because they are sick to death of hearing about it.

[vetuste_ennemi]

"You lot...chasing shadows".

OK.

" I may myself have to get used to the idea that overturning Brexit altogether is probably impossible//

Brexit is subverted. Well done, Jim.. More power to your elbow. Emnjoy your your triumph.

[jim360]

I lost out on any sense of triumph the moment the referendum result was announced.

[Gromit]

VE,
I don’t think Jim influenced the Conservative Government, so any triumph (it doesn’t look like one) is solely down to May and Co., and the Brixiters who were abscent at their posts (Gove, Johnson, Rees Mogg) to watch this happen.

It is a neat trick to pass on blame to the people who were not involved, for the end result.

[vetuste_ennemi]

The young for whom you're the sophisticated advocate can relax.: your fundamental human rights which were threatened by Brexit deologues are safe. All those concerns about roaming charges and cheap flights to Ibiza laid to rest.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Last post to Jim.

You and I are equally sad, Jim, if for opposing reasons.

[-Talbot-]

Macron suggests France could push to keep UK in backstop if it doesn't get concessions on fishing

[dannyk13]

Something else that May will probably surrender to the EU.

[vetuste_ennemi]

The deal is mediaeval liege-lord suzerainty stuff, isn't it. We accept EU rule in return for (the grant of) a limited autonomy.

[emmie]

we are heading for a signed, sealed and delivered piece of history, one that will go down in the annals as the worst PM, the worst deal that one can possibly imagine, will change our country for the worse, i am ashamed of my Tory party.

[cassa333]

If, god forbid this deal gets through them May should go and someone who knows how to negotiate on our behalf should be drafted in double quick and stick a rocket up the EU backside.

[Jackdaw33]

This deal will only go through if Labour support it. If they oppose it it is a dead duck and May would be advised to pack her bags.

[emmie]

can see that many don't want a No Deal, so they may consider passing this deal in Parliament, heaven forbid
it goes through.

[Togo]

Send this to your local MP's constituency office. email the link.

""EU leaders have wasted little time in gloating over “the worst deal in history” negotiated by Theresa May, with French president Emmanuel Macron gloating he can blackmail Britain into surrendering its fishing waters or force it into the humiliating “backstop”. ""
Brussels negotiators have been keen to maintain or duplicate this Common Fisheries Policy (CFP) beyond Brexit Day in March 2019, despite Theresa May’s repeated assurances that she will restore Britain’s status as an “independent coastal state” — and May’s withdrawal agreement could well allow the bloc to do so.
Firstly, it stipulates that the CFP will remain in force in Britain throughout the so-called “transition” period to the end of 2020, in which the country will effectively remain an EU member but without its current representation in the EU’s institutions.
Secondly, it provides for the transition to be extended for a further two years if a new relationship is not finalised during it, or for the United Kingdom to enter into so-called “backstop” arrangements with the EU — which it could not leave without the EU’s permission, and which would see it subject to vast swathes of EU rules and regulations and entered into a “single customs territory” in which the bloc would wield the whip hand.""

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/11/25/fishermen-betrayed-macron-gloats-uk-will-be-forced-into-backstop-unless-british-waters-are-surrendered/

[Togo]

And this.
""Spain’s socialist prime minister has claimed victory on the issue of Gibraltar in Theresa May’s Brexit “deal” with the European Union.
“We are going to resolve a conflict that has been going for over 300 years,” the Spanish Socialist Workers’ Party leader asserted.
“[The deal] puts Spain in a position of strength in negotiations with the United Kingdom over Gibraltar that we have not had until now… regarding Gibraltar, Spain wins.”

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/11/26/spain-wins-madrid-brags-mays-eu-deal-offers-chance-grab-gibraltar-sovereignty/

[Bigbad]

I’ve written to my MP today.
I don’t suppose it’ll make a blind bit of difference, but having looked on his website, I just had to do it.

A constituency with a very strong leave vote, he thinks it is the best deal we can get, and one he can live with.

I wonder how many of his constituents can live with it too.