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IJKLM, // You are at liberty to disagree, but the facts remain: The leavers had the chance to get a better deal; they ran away from that opportunity.
10:14 Thu 29th Nov 2018
// the reason that basically nothing happened in 1999 is actually because (a) people took the threat seriously, and (b) prepared for it by upgrading or repairing their systems, so that (c) the risk was avoided. //
People I know did not take the threat seriously. Did SFA to their systems and waited to see SFA happen. Perhaps people I know are made of sterner stuff. :-)
People I know did not take the threat seriously. Did SFA to their systems and waited to see SFA happen. Perhaps people I know are made of sterner stuff. :-)
It wasn’t really personal computer users who were expected to do anything about Y2K. It was the responsibility of systems and software developers. I spent much of 1999 working on it! Including a memorable 22 hour shift! Basically there were things we knew wouldn’t work and things we hadn’t a clue whether they’d work or not but could not be left to chance.
I would hazard a guess that most of those whose job it is to vote on the deal whenever it takes place have already made up their minds. So it doesn't really matter what anyone says about how well or poor the economy will fare. Which makes the PM's whistle-stop tour of the country - and the proposed May v Jezza debate - rather futile, imho.
Capital Economics chairman Roger Bootle illustrated the gulf between the claims of pro-European Union campaigners and reality over the past 30 years, which has seen countless campaigns to force Britain’s integration into Europe, but the nation persistently faring better off outside it. Bootle wrote:
""…the overwhelming majority of the establishment, including the BBC, business bigwigs and establishment newspapers, was in favour of joining the euro. Indeed, it foresaw dire consequences if we failed to join. In view of these forebodings, the outcome is particularly interesting. Since the euro was formed in 1999, the German and French economies have grown by 32pc, the Italian economy by 9pc – and the poor old UK, self-excluded from the enormous benefits of the euro, has grown by 44pc. Funny, that.""
Meanwhile. Bad economic results plagued the Eurozone Friday, forcing the Euro currency into a fall as hopes for the financial union’s members to bounce back were dashed. Eurozone economic growth was slower than predicted following falling export figures — thanks in part to Germany and France’s decision to engage in a trade war with the United States — and growth could fall as low as 0.2 per cent in December, reports Reuters.
""…the overwhelming majority of the establishment, including the BBC, business bigwigs and establishment newspapers, was in favour of joining the euro. Indeed, it foresaw dire consequences if we failed to join. In view of these forebodings, the outcome is particularly interesting. Since the euro was formed in 1999, the German and French economies have grown by 32pc, the Italian economy by 9pc – and the poor old UK, self-excluded from the enormous benefits of the euro, has grown by 44pc. Funny, that.""
Meanwhile. Bad economic results plagued the Eurozone Friday, forcing the Euro currency into a fall as hopes for the financial union’s members to bounce back were dashed. Eurozone economic growth was slower than predicted following falling export figures — thanks in part to Germany and France’s decision to engage in a trade war with the United States — and growth could fall as low as 0.2 per cent in December, reports Reuters.
Saboteurs all David. If the were capable of shame they would feel it. But we know they have none, all of them in thrall to the one order, pyramid scheme engineers, and opinion manipulators from Brussels. Willing, and fatally gullible enough to swallow whatever their self appointed masters and rulers see fit to orchestrate for their consumption.
Pretty sure it was the US who started the trade war -- which rather makes me think that Bootle is a fairly biased source.
Brexiters caused this mess. Brexiters voted for it. And Brexiters were the ones too scared, or too incapable, to deliver it. It's boring being blamed for something that I didn't want or vote for and have had no role in at all, and it's rather tiresome watching people ignore warning after warning as they continue to drag us all down with them.
Brexiters caused this mess. Brexiters voted for it. And Brexiters were the ones too scared, or too incapable, to deliver it. It's boring being blamed for something that I didn't want or vote for and have had no role in at all, and it's rather tiresome watching people ignore warning after warning as they continue to drag us all down with them.
//Brexiters caused this mess. Brexiters voted for it.//
Brexiteers…….are not the ones engineering chaos to undermine Britain, out of fear of the capabilities of the British, who if allowed to strive and flourish unimpeded would certainly do so. That would be the willing slaves of a dictatorship born of a Marxist dogma hatched in a prison cell.
Brexiteers…….are not the ones engineering chaos to undermine Britain, out of fear of the capabilities of the British, who if allowed to strive and flourish unimpeded would certainly do so. That would be the willing slaves of a dictatorship born of a Marxist dogma hatched in a prison cell.
Both. It's one of those worst case scenarios that one can extract by selecting the right manipulated assumptions. It's good for worrying the easily swayed, but unlikely to be anything like reality. As I recall he doesn't have a good past record for his doom & gloom scenarios; which should surprise no one. He's there and on message, trying to prevent the UK getting free from the EU as avoiding disruption makes the lives of those in finance, easier.
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