Tommy Robinson

[spathiphyllum]

Tommy Robinson has had his facebook and instagram account terminated. Facebook says he has continually violated its community standards with hate speech against Muslims.

Is you use social media in ways that violate their policies around organised hate then surely you're a bad person?

[spathiphyllum]

"Like I said,the age of criminal responsibility is 10 and if she ends up back here she is potentially facing a criminal charge(s) "

Which she should do, for treason. Life imprisonment.

And criminal responsibility has nothing to do with being a child or adult.

[agchristie]

//he has received threats, not only against him but also his family. //

Yes,a point Khandro made on his thread.TR has been put in hospital.Some would say he deserves it wouldn't they? Ironic when he is perceived as the 'violent one'.

[agchristie]

//Which she should do, for treason. Life imprisonment//

Hang on Spath,it would put paid to your theory of her being brainwashed though wouldn't it?

[spathiphyllum]

Tommy Robinson is a criminal for many reasons so I'm sure he's a violent soul. I've seen videos of him starting on young teenage scottish youts.

[spathiphyllum]

You can be brainwashed and you can also commit treason. So no.

[agchristie]

//And criminal responsibility has nothing to do with being a child or adult//

Disagree,it assumes a child is capable of understand what is wrong and right.

[naomi24]

Spath, //So was it just her and the quorn or was there a group of older men around her to influence her with ISIS propaganda?//

No, spath, it wasn’t just her. Hundreds of girls went from western countries to join IS and they were (and are) influenced not only by the Koran and older men. What do you actually know about Islam?

[spathiphyllum]

"Disagree,it assumes a child is capable of understand what is wrong and right."

Yes, a child.

And exactly naomi. Influenced / radicalised by elders. How awful.

[agchristie]

//You can be brainwashed and you can also commit treason. So no//

So you would effectively be saying 'yes,she has committed treason but it can be excused because she allowed herself to be influenced by some nasty Muslims'?

[spathiphyllum]

No, i'm saying she was brainwashed which caused her to commit treason. The radicalisation doesn't excuse what she has done or why but it does explain some things.

[naomi24]

spath, I'll ask again. What do you actually know about Islam?

[spathiphyllum]

Enough.

[naomi24]

Clearly not enough.

[spathiphyllum]

Why is that clear from what i've said in this thread?

[spathiphyllum]

Naomi if from birth my parents or the people around me forced Islam into my face and showed me awful propaganda videos which influenced me as a person would you consider me a victim or would you blame me for my thoughts?

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// OK - how about this - "Muslims intend to take over the country and establish a caliphate and Sharia
law ///

Have you any proof that they don't?

They hardly wish to integrate in our Western ways and dress do they?

From the moment they settle in their country of choice, they can't wait to turn their areas into Middle Eastern communities, so much so that the indigenous population of this country feels like a foreigner in their own land.

[naomi24]

spath, //Why is that clear from what i've said in this thread? //

Because you've said nothing that makes sense or that you can qualify.

//if from birth my parents or the people around me forced Islam into my face and showed me awful propaganda videos ...//

You said the Koran and older men were responsible for her 'plight'. Make your mind up.

[andy-hughes]

Khandro - // andy-hughes; //...the ludicrous position he adopts as some sort of seer with the stupidly simple answers to very deep and complicated social issues. //

Now, who does that remind me of? //

That's for you to know and no-one else to care about.

[spathiphyllum]

"You said the Koran and older men were responsible for her 'plight'. Make your mind up."

Can you just answer the question? People around me implies older Muslim men and Islam implies the quran

[andy-hughes]

retrocop - // Not me for sure. I notice when spouting vitriol and spite all day on the deeds or alleged misdeeds of Mr Robinson. Mr Hughes admits like certain others here he has never read what Robinson has said or debated. //

You really need a new set of adjectives retro, this lot are getting boringly repetitive.

For the record, I have never admitted that I have 'never read what Robinson has said or debated' and you will not find a post that says that.

//At least Robinson stands his corner and doesn't decide I was only having some sport when his back is to the wall and the hole is too deep Master debater. Huh. //

My back is not 'against' anything - you really do have a hysterically OTT way of looking at things!

'Master debater' - your term not mine, but I'll take it - thanks!