Who Can Still Say That Uncontrolled Immigration Isn't Responsible For A Massive Increase In Crime?

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9697274/albanian-gangs-south-east-england-europes-crime-hotspot/

[teacake44]

We could do with buying about 500 Iranian fast attack boats to blow em out of the water before they reach our shores.

[gulliver1]

Bet they are all lefties.

[anotheoldgit]

gulliver1

/// Bet they are all lefties. ///

Could be, because once they get a foothold in this country, they are sure to vote Labour, perhaps that is why Labour are prepared to bury their heads in the sand, when it comes to addressing their criminality.

[davebro]

I doubt if criminal Albanian gangs will be doing much voting!

[jim360]

Anyone who's actually bothered to look at the recent statistics can say that. Crime rates in the UK have been on a significant decrease for the last 20+ years, at more or less the same time that immigration rates have increased. This isn't to say that the two are causally linked (ie, I don't think anyone would argue that immigrants are directly responsible for the drop in crime), but it certainly shows that it's totally false to argue that immigration is responsible for a rise in crime.

[jno]

Essex a haven for crooks, that's new. But as the British ones move to Spain, it opens up job vacancies.

[gulliver1]

12.13 You probably said that about Sajid Javid who is now your Chancellor. and a Yank as Prime Minister

[Baldric]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/08/boris-johnson-renounces-us-citizenship-record-2016-uk-foreign-secretary

Do keep up Gulliver!

[teacake44]

They have little respect Mozz for their own families or they wouldn't put them in a flimsy craft to cross an ocean in the first place, and the kids are soon trained to be shoplifters, their first step, and taste of crime

[anotheoldgit]

jim360

I don't know where you get your figures from but here are two from left-wing journals.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/apr/25/homicides-in-england-and-wales-hit-highest-level-in-a-decade

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47156957

[anotheoldgit]

Mozz71

/// And yes, villainy can come from any gender, but to vilify anyone because of their ethnicity or place of origin does, to me, seem like a far right ideal. ///

Since this report refers to illegal Albanian gangs, I think we have every right in their case to vilify them because of their ethnicity or place of origin.
We don't wean the likes of them bringing such crimes to our shores.

And if that makes me a Right-Winger then I am proud to be so.

[Mozz71]

//...and the kids are soon trained to be shoplifters, their first step, and taste of crime//

So they should be victimised for something they may become in later life? Hoe about we take them, and integrate them into our own communities? For every bad guy, we could be sitting on a potential landmine of doctors or scientists?

[anotheoldgit]

Anyone still in doubt?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/4952904/Crime-by-foreigners-doubles-in-five-years.html

[Mozz71]

//Since this report refers to illegal Albanian gangs, I think we have every right in their case to vilify them because of their ethnicity or place of origin.//

Then its a good job this report has come from such a reliable, neutral source as The Sun.

Oh, wait...

[Mozz71]

//Anyone still in doubt?//

Absolutely, as all your links have come from right wing papers. Any reports from sources without agendas?

[anotheoldgit]

Mozz71

/// Hoe about we take them, and integrate them into our own communities? ///

That is part of the problem, they don't choose to integrate, they prefer to make and live in their own communities.