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what else can I say........
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Jim360 - “The defeat, such as it was, owes more to the leaders of the Remain campaign than it does to the rank- and- file, anyway.” I vehemently disagree. While the leaders of the Remain campaign were, for the most part, doom- mongering, lying catastrophis ts, it was the rank- and- file 'C' and 'D' list remoaners in the main-stream media that really put the...
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I can completely understand the sentiments that we should now come together to make leaving work, but I don't think it's necessary to abandon my core beliefs at the same time. Part of making Leaving work must be to take seriously the concerns of those who didn't want to, in order to either prove those concerns wrong altogether or to at the very least mitigate them.
As I said earlier, I would love to feel stupid about all this a few years hence. That's the best I can do, for now.
As I said earlier, I would love to feel stupid about all this a few years hence. That's the best I can do, for now.
Mozz, I really think all the negatively and scaremongering that's been bandied around over the past three plus years has had a detrimental effect. I'm sick of the depressing gloom and doom merchants. If they want to remain negative best we ignore them and leave them to their own devices. They have nothing to contribute to the positivity of a determination to pursue growth and success. Happy days.
I disagree there Naomi. People have legitimate worries about the effects of Brexit and shouldn't be ignored because of them. That's just more of the "us and them" mentality I spoke of before. The united front has to be on both sides, the Brexiteers have to accept Remainers just as much as the Remainers have to show willing to accept what has happened.
Don't dismiss the naysayers, show them that we can make it work as a unified country. A United Kingdom in intent as well as name.
Don't dismiss the naysayers, show them that we can make it work as a unified country. A United Kingdom in intent as well as name.
Mozz, //I disagree there Naomi. People have legitimate worries about the effects of Brexit and shouldn't be ignored because of them.//
I didn't suggest we dismiss legitimate worries - simply the gloom and doom scaremonger brigade who will say anything if they think it will assist their cause. They've caused enough problems.
I didn't suggest we dismiss legitimate worries - simply the gloom and doom scaremonger brigade who will say anything if they think it will assist their cause. They've caused enough problems.
I think, strangely enough, that the recovery of this great nation lies in the hands of the people that wanted to remain in the EU. How many of the millions that voted to remain will drop their prejudices and misgivings and work towards a unified country. Do they want a country that is independent, strong, respected throughout the world or is it their chief concern is to be able to say in a few years time" I told you so"?
//I'm waiting for the day when the UK government goes cap in hand and tugging forelock to gain re-admittance to the EU. //
that's not the gospel according to St Tony.....
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// Naomi - 100% yes. I may not like what's happened, but I want what is best for my child, and what is best is a united front.//
and would the maundering Nigh have said the same if we had voted no ? or would she have said ( see scotland) = one more push and we will get there - and then later OK another big push and we will get there
and then OK we are almost there one push .......
people who speak with forked tongues, should not kiss balloons - Rowan and Martin's Laugh in 1968
and would the maundering Nigh have said the same if we had voted no ? or would she have said ( see scotland) = one more push and we will get there - and then later OK another big push and we will get there
and then OK we are almost there one push .......
people who speak with forked tongues, should not kiss balloons - Rowan and Martin's Laugh in 1968
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