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ToraToraTora | 00:03 Sat 01st Feb 2020 | News
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what else can I say........
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Jim360 - “The defeat, such as it was, owes more to the leaders of the Remain campaign than it does to the rank-and-file, anyway.” I vehemently disagree. While the leaders of the Remain campaign were, for the most part, doom-mongering, lying catastrophists, it was the rank-and-file 'C' and 'D' list remoaners in the main-stream media that really put the...
02:01 Sat 01st Feb 2020
Perhaps, Shoota, but it would be nice for someone to show me so, rather than merely assert it without any justification.

There was never any question of the EU either being now, or becoming possibly in the future, a tyranny. And, what is more, there was never any need even to *pretend* so in order to argue in favour of leaving.
Cool, N. But I don't care that you don't care :P
jim360//
Plus, you must concede, far fetched as it seems at the moment, if the wrong people are allowed into power in Brussels true tyranny would be easy to achieve, especially if the Euro army becomes a reality. //

Stuff and nonsense.



A bit of tyranny going in France for the past year or so.

Police battering firefighters in France in 2020.
Not really anything to do with the EU though, is it?
Why hasn't the EU called it out?
//But I can honestly say that I've never hoped more to have been wrong in my life. In five years' time, nothing would give me more pleasure than to think of myself today as wrong, blinded to the benefits of this choice.//

This completely my stance too Jim. I honesty believe we're shooting ourselves in the foot, but I hope to feck I'm wrong about it all. In 5 years time, I don't want to be saying "I told you so".

Just to add, this is why people like Gully and Diddles grind my gears. I'm pretty sure they would happily see the country suffer in order to be proven right.
Bellagio, Vegas are playing Beatles (here comes the sun) to their fountain dance, at my request. Explaining reason for request I was emotional - rare for me
//Cool, N. But I don't care that you don't care //

Tell that to the fairies.
tambourine, I love that song.
Yippee we are out.

Pity the Metropolitan elite braodcasters didnt see fit to broadcast Tim and Niges speeches but there we are, just more swamps to drain.

But for the rest of us upward and onward lets all make this Country great(er) again. We are more than capable and still one of the biggest and trusted economies in the world despite the doom mongers.
Just so long as you agree to own the future, whatever it brings, ymb.

Prove us wrong. Please. Nobody loses if we're wrong.
//Pity the Metropolitan elite braodcasters didnt see fit to broadcast Tim and Niges speeches //

Got to say, the dear old unbiased BBC did skim over the assembled gathering rather speedily.
Jim, why are you carrying on? You lost. You did. You really did. Really.
They all did Naomi

And yes jim, I will own it. I believe in our Country even if you dont.
'There was never any question of the EU either being now, or becoming possibly in the future, a tyranny.'
I don't see how you can say what would happen in the future with such certainty.
Don't make the mistake of thinking that I don't believe in my country, ymb.
I have no intention of going quietly into the night, Naomi. It shouldn't be a question of winning or losing, anyway. It's a question of what was the better decision for our country. On that we disagreed, but we still made the decision we did in favour of what we hoped was the best outcome.

The defeat, such as it was, owes more to the leaders of the Remain campaign than it does to the rank-and-file, anyway.
I know who Nige is but who is Tim?
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I have no intention of going quietly into the night, Naomi.


Have you any intention of answering my question?
Still in the denial stage, I see, jim. Mmm, you should have moved on to depression at least by now.

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