Tommy In Trouble Again...

[Spicerack]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8066895/Tommy-Robinson-arrested-common-assault-row-Center-Parcs-swimming-pool.html

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // Yes, the man is a fool to himself. //

Thanks to his relentless self-aggrandisement and desperate need for self-publicity, he is effortlessly a fool to everyone else as well.

[Khandro]

A-H. Would you write the name, Elton John (Reginald Kenneth Dwight) in inverted commas?... I think not, neither for most Movie stars & celebs, so why do you do it for Tommy Robinson? are you just trying to show us how smart you are?

[naomi24]

Khandro, it's 'cos AH knows his real name. No flies on him. ;o)

[Mozz71]

If this was real life, I'd suggest Andy and Naomi need to spend a night together to get it out of their system.

Thank heavens its not real life, eh kids?

[andy-hughes]

Khandro - // A-H. Would you write the name, Elton John (Reginald Kenneth Dwight) in inverted commas?... I think not, neither for most Movie stars & celebs, so why do you do it for Tommy Robinson? are you just trying to show us how smart you are? //

No I wouldn't - for the simple reason that Elton Hercules John is Elton John's name - he changed it by Deed Poll in 1972.

Changing your name because, as a famous person you prefer another name is quite common, I have no issue with that.

Changing your name to that of a well-known football hooligan because your own double-barrelled name does not sit well with your created persona as a 'journalist' (another reason for inverted commas!) and common man is pointless self-deception and hypocrisy.

I refer to 'Tommy Robinson' because it is not his name - it has nothing to do with me showing you anything, how 'smart' I am does not come into it.

[royfromaus]

andy-hughes
'Tommy Robinson' is someone who likes hitting people - a proven fact that his supporters seem keen to defend, for reasons unknown.



On the other side of the coin, Robinson haters seem keen to ignore the possibility that Tommy Robinson's 8 year old daughter was allegedly sexually assaulted.

The Sun somehow failed to mention this.

[andy-hughes]

Mozz - // this was real life, I'd suggest Andy and Naomi need to spend a night together to get it out of their system. //

I would be happy to spend an evening with Naomi - I can't speak for her obviously - but I think we would find a lot to talk about.

I'm not sure I need or want to get anything 'out of my system' as you put it!

[pixie374]

It is his name, tbf. You can change it by common usage too.

[pixie374]

//Usage method
A common law name (i.e. one assumed without formality and for a non-fraudulent purpose) is a legal name. ... If a person is not in any of these categories, then a common law name change is allowed.//

[andy-hughes]

royfromaus - // andy-hughes
'Tommy Robinson' is someone who likes hitting people - a proven fact that his supporters seem keen to defend, for reasons unknown.



On the other side of the coin, Robinson haters seem keen to ignore the possibility that Tommy Robinson's 8 year old daughter was allegedly sexually assaulted.

The Sun somehow failed to mention this. //

Once again, you are trying to justify thuggish behaviour from a man who is famous for it, and should, by now, have learned that because of his self-created persona as a bigoted thug, the media are only ever going to leap on his behaviour, and maybe he should think with what I know is an intelligent mind, before resorting to his fists - again.

[andy-hughes]

pixie - // //Usage method
A common law name (i.e. one assumed without formality and for a non-fraudulent purpose) is a legal name. ... If a person is not in any of these categories, then a common law name change is allowed.// //

That's fair enough, but if like 'Tommy', you have been prosecuted for fraud in the past, that maybe negates your right to pretend to be someone you're not!

[pixie374]

If he used it for fraudulent reasons, otherwise not x

[Mozz71]

//I'm not sure I need or want to get anything 'out of my system' as you put it!//

I'm not so sure. I used to think that Naomi was being either idiotic or tongue-in-cheek when she refers to you as a stalker, but it really does seem that you cant let her post without comment. It's beginning to look like an infatuation. Where one goes, the other is sure to follow.

[Mozz71]

//That's fair enough, but if like 'Tommy', you have been prosecuted for fraud in the past, that maybe negates your right to pretend to be someone you're not!//

Not really, when a majority of his crimes have taken place have been under the name of Tommy Robinson. It seems more sensible to use his alter ego at this time.

[andy-hughes]

Mozz - // //I'm not sure I need or want to get anything 'out of my system' as you put it!//

I'm not so sure. I used to think that Naomi was being either idiotic or tongue-in-cheek when she refers to you as a stalker … //

I am unaware that Naomi has referred to me as a 'stalker' but I am sure, as you say that since she is not idiotic, she would be being humorous.

// … but it really does seem that you cant let her post without comment. It's beginning to look like an infatuation. Where one goes, the other is sure to follow. //

That applies to a large number of posters on the site whose views and opinions I like to agree with, or challenge, or discuss, it is not restricted to Naomi.

I am sure the same approach applies to Naomi, but I would not dream of speaking for her, she is more than capable of commenting on your post if she wishes to do so.

[andy-hughes]

Mozz - // //That's fair enough, but if like 'Tommy', you have been prosecuted for fraud in the past, that maybe negates your right to pretend to be someone you're not!//

Not really, when a majority of his crimes have taken place have been under the name of Tommy Robinson. It seems more sensible to use his alter ego at this time. //

That's probably so.

Since 'Tommy' has created this violent thuggish bigoted attention-seeking clown persona for himself, it makes sense to use it 'on stage' and be Stephen Yaxley-Lennon at home with his family and friends, and leave his numpty suit on the doorstep.

[royfromaus]

andy-hughes
Once again, you are trying to justify thuggish behaviour from a man who is famous for it,


Why do you constantly get away with these lies?
My post did not excuse any thuggish behaviour.
Your post however once again omitted to mention the alleged sexual assault of a child.

Maybe because she is the daughter of Tommy Robinson she deserved it. (just remember during your forthcoming rant, you started it)

[royfromaus]

Amended.

Maybe because she is the daughter of Tommy Robinson you think she deserved it. (just remember during your forthcoming rant, you started it)

[andy-hughes]

royframaus - // andy-hughes
Once again, you are trying to justify thuggish behaviour from a man who is famous for it,


Why do you constantly get away with these lies? //

I am not 'getting away' with anything, nor have I lied.

What I have done is offer my interpretation of your post, and you have done the same.

I disagree with your interpretation of what I have said, but that does not make you a liar, so i would not accuse you of being one.



// … however once again omitted to mention the alleged sexual assault of a child. //

Because that is being used to excuse his alleged assault - and it does not do so.

Please don't misunderstand me, as a father of three daughters, I entirely understand that anger any father would feel towards someone who has hurt his child, but that does not excuse or permit an assault.

// … Maybe because she is the daughter of Tommy Robinson she deserved it. (just remember during your forthcoming rant, you started it) //

I am not going to dignify such rank stupidity with a response.

[steg]

//I used to think that Naomi was being either idiotic or tongue-in-cheek when she refers to you as a stalker, but it really does seem that you cant let her post without comment. It's beginning to look like an infatuation. Where one goes, the other is sure to follow.//

I just had quick look at naomi’s Last ten questions posted,I think AH appears in two of them. I wouldn’t call that stalking especially when at least ten+ posters have posted a lot more than he has on them