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sunny-dave | 18:59 Sat 23rd May 2020 | News
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... would like to find some excuse for this second breach of lockdown - after he was well and back at work - and when (presumably) the 'childcare' emergency was no longer valid reason?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/dominic-cummings-ignored-coronavirus-lockdown-22075857
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Andy Hughes at 6.23pm.

Priceless.

You wanted me to belt up yesterday because I was “annoying” for having a different opinion.
//Why are the same people obsessed with Cummings' shenanigans not bothered about those of Sturgeon?

Or have I missed that thread? //

What's she done roy? Please feel free to start that thread.
Deskdiary - // Andy Hughes at 6.23pm.

Priceless.

You wanted me to belt up yesterday because I was “annoying” for having a different opinion. //

I have never wanted anyone, including you, to 'belt up' because they were annoying for having a different opinion.

I am unsure where you have decided that view has come from - if you have evidence, I will be delighted to discuss it with you.
// Gawd this lefty love in has gone on a while ... //

How many Tory MPs need to join the calls for Cummings to either apologise or resign before you recognise that this isn't a "lefty love in"?

It's a matter of basic decency. Our lives have been a wreck for the last couple of months but the public understood that it was necessary to make those sacrifices, because we *must* "stay at home, protect the NHS, save lives". That is completely undermined by somebody breaking the spirit, let alone the letter, of the rules.
It's a matter of basic decency. Our lives have been a wreck for the last couple of months



Has something happened, jim?
Only you were doing ok last week.
I read that Dominic Cummings rushed home from work when his wife called him as she came down with Covid29. Then she wrote that the very next day he came down with it. She said their son was ministering to his father with ribena and that he the dad was bad for ten days. At no time was the boy ill. However if they drove all those miles with both parents ill with the virus, being locked in the car with them was the surest way of exposing the boy to the bug. If they are telling the truth (or not) Cummings drove all that way whilst very ill . The serious issue is that all that time on the road could have resulted in breakdown problems or traffic accidents which would have been exposing others to their positive covid19. His wife said he was so bad that she was counting his breaths as he was struggling, taking his oxygen readings with a device she bought on Amazon and had he needed admittance to hospital they would have taken the virus with them from London.
I mean "our" collectively, roy.
Exactly, Stargazer....in fact Mary Wakefield has said a lot that she must wish she hadn't now.
Here is the guidance:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-stay-at-home-guidance/stay-at-home-guidance-for-households-with-possible-coronavirus-covid-19-infection

The key paragraph is this one: if you live with others and you are the first in the household to have symptoms of coronavirus (COVID-19), then you *must* stay at home for at least 7 days, but all other household members who remain well *must* stay at home and not leave the house for 14 days. The 14-day period starts from the day when the first person in the house became ill.

The two *must*s in that paragraph are important. People have been fined for not following that instruction. In fact, they've been fined for far less.

Cummings did not follow that instruction. This is beyond question. Nobody has claimed that he and his family did not travel from London to Durham. What has actually been claimed, by the Prime Minister no less, was that Cummings had "no alternative" but to make that trip. That's OK then, isn't it? "Must" did not mean "must", clearly.

I mean, an alternative couldn't have been that one of the perfectly well members of his family from Durham came and collected his child should he reach the point when he could no longer cope? Which, as it turned out, he did not reach.

This is classic doublespeak. Must means must, except when you have "no alternative" but to do something that suits you better. Boris has just given the whole country permission to do what the heck it likes to deal with coronavirus. Having conceded the English language to his special adviser in order to appease him, for reasons unknown (I'd love to know!), Boris's leadership is more like Chamberlain's than Churchill's.
Meanwhile, some anonymous Civil Servant tweeted on the official account how this was "arrogant and offensive", and the teacher accused of straight-up lying about the idea that Cummings visited a castle has reported it to the police. Calling Downing Street's bluff rather on that one.

It's a courageous decision of Johnson to back his key adviser over this.
Ellipsis - I think you have summed up the situation admirably.

It is perfectly clear that the Cummings' had other options for child care - each of them has a family member within a short distance, and that is without help from friends and neighbours, or even the government, since he works for them.

The notion that Cummings followed his 'instinct' is insulting to fathers everywhere who have followed the rules when help was near, but unavailable because of the rules.
'Courageous' in the Humphrey Appleby sense? :-)
Pretty sure that was implied :P
Jim360 //It's a courageous decision of Johnson to back his key adviser over this.//

Do you really think so - I think it shows a lack of backbone. I'd like to know what hold Cummings has over BoJo.
Jim360,
They have accused the Durham police of lying about visiting the household in Durham, to warn about a breach of Government guidance. The police say they attended, and Cummings/Government say they didn’t.

Perhaps the Chief Constable of Durham police, Jo Farrell, should immediately resign, or better still, be sacked.
Andy Hughes - 10.49pm yesterday.
Indeed. I mention it as a hint for younger listeners who may have never have happened upon the documentary series.
A/H 19.26, OK one works for TNP, and the other one is a very , very . keen supporter of TNP,
as Mr Cummings is an aide or advisor or something, surely he's not the only person to be capable of filling that role?
Any other word about re-introduciing lockdown if, heaven forbid, there's a step backward, then who the heck gives a stuff about lockdown ?

Right or wrong, Mr Cummings is perceived as having broken the rules, perception is everything and he should go.

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