Getting A Pint In A Pub - You Need An App.

[Gromit]

Obviously that is never going to happen.
There are no apps currently available.
Landlords do not know how to implement them.

Are the Governments advisors not living in the real world? Do the not realise there isn’t a chance of that working.

After the Corona App fiasco have they not learned anything.

[teacake44]

22.54 no me neither, and folk who clean pubs next day get paid peanuts for doing a dirty job, are they really going to put the extra effort in?

[Buenchico]

Gromit's post seems to working from a false premise anyway. There is absolutely NOTHING in the government's guidance to the hospitality industry which say that pub must use apps.

The guidance simply lays down basic principles and it's up to individual licensees (or the company's that own the pubs they work in) to determine the best ways to ensure that the guidelines are complied with:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/working-safely-during-coronavirus-covid-19/restaurants-offering-takeaway-or-delivery

So, while some pub chains and/or individual pubs might choose to go down the route of requiring customers to use apps, others can make the use of apps optional or simply not have them at all.

The requirement is to ensure that the guidelines are followed, not to follow them in any particular way.

[Gromit]

// apps are like web sites they are based mostly on working templates. Bit of branding item list, price list and wallop! sorted. //

Nope. If it was that easy, our world beating Corona App would have been out 10 weeks ago, instead of down the toilet.
No one (who hasn’t already written an ordering app) will invest any time and money into building (or modifying an existing app) because NO ONE WILL USE IT. So they won’t make any money.

For someone who claims to have been employed all his life writing code, you don’t half come out with a lot of uninformed codswallop TTT.

[THECORBYLOON]

GROMIT, where in the guidance does it say pubs MUST use an app?

[Gromit]

Thank you buenchico.
I was going off of the reporting and not the guidelines.
I am sure (or at least I hope) that the Government know that in most of the country, these hi-tech solutions are just not ever going to be implemented.

[Jackdaw33]

I wouldn't know what an app was if I tripped over one and I certainly wouldn't know how to use one.

[THECORBYLOON]

GROMIT, I'm no app expert but I'm sure there's a big difference between setting one up to order drinks from a set list and one logging all contacts with someone reporting as infected.

[Gromit]

TCL
Easy-peasy.
You and TTT do it and make a fortune.

[brainiac]

There are two pubs in my village, and I don't intend to go to either of them, app or no app - it's just not worth it to me. And I don't have a mobile phone, so an app would make no difference anyway. There's no way people who've had a few drinks are going to maintain any sort of social distancing.

Why on earth did they choose a Saturday to unleash the hordes on pubs who are having to improvise and almost make it up as they go along. I think it's going to be a disaster, but I so hope I'm wrong.

[THECORBYLOON]

GROMIT, you are comparing two apps designed to undertake completely different tasks.

Mind you, you couldn't even be bothered to check whether your claim about having to have an app was in the guidance so I'm not surprised.

[albaqwerty]

I blame the reporters for at least half of the mis-information/mis-understanding of guidelines/laws/rules.

I'm thinking the spectacular mis-information that you're allowed to go outside for an hour to exercise was twisted at the beginining of the global pandemic.

[brainiac]

Exactly, alba. The 'hour' thing was never a rule, just something Gove said off the top of his head when pressed during an interview about how long the one daily exercise should be.

[THECORBYLOON]

The mis-information about the one hour's exercise originated from Michael Gove.

[Ellipsis]

Customers are not allowed at the bar, they must be seated at tables. A bar steward takes orders and brings them to the table. Payment ideally by contactless POS terminal. That's the easy bit. No app required.

The complicated bit is that all patrons are supposed to volunteer their contact details, which will be stored by the bar for 21 days - without contravening the GDPR, obviously. This will allow track and trace to somehow magically work if somebody who was close to you at some point in the bar comes down with coronavirus, which means that the bar will need to log a lot more than contact details.

[Gromit]

TCL
// you are comparing two apps designed to undertake completely different tasks. //

No I am not.

I mention the corona App to TTT because we have talked about it before.
I know this is not a tracking app, it is an ordering app.
But you both seem to think this software appears very quickly by magic and is easy and infallible.
It isn’t.
Combined with the fact that it is not going to make anyone any money, no one is going to waste their time and effort developing it.

[albaqwerty]

wouldn't it be possible to tweak a deliveroo or justeat app?

I have no idea about these things, don't have a smart-phone so am clueless.

[Buenchico]

I don't why anyone's bothering about this matter anyway. According to at least one publican, the risk of coronavirus can be summed up by this statement: "I know it’s a load of s***. It’s a load of *** ***."

https://www.thestar.co.uk/health/coronavirus/watch-moment-when-police-caught-two-people-hiding-wardrobe-during-lockdown-raid-sheffield-pub-2894164

So we've obviously got nothing to worry about anyway ;-)

[Buenchico]

^^^ Ooh! AB's swear filter is even stricter than the Sheffield Star's is!
(See the link for what I actually posted)

[sanmac]

Wow! Who would have thought that they were drinkers? They finally came out of the closet.

[albaqwerty]

They were gay joiners checking they'd put the Ikea wardrobes together properly.

Ex-lover is a bit of a specific term isn't it. Not ex-girl-friend or some such other phrase :-)))