Starmer Speech

[saintpeter48]

What a boring man he is, he has no charisma at all, he's banging on about what he would've done differently had he been PM, do me a favour!!
You need charisma and a bit of 'wow' factor to appeal to the voters, Boris has it, as did Cameron, Blair, Thatcher, Wilson, MacMillan, Churchill, where as May, Brown, Major, Callaghan, Heath, Douglas-Home didn't have it.
Labour will be in the wilderness for many years IMO under this man.

[woofgang]

I can live with boring...after all I wouldn't not hire a plumber or go to a doctor because they were boring....but I do require to agree with and believe what they tell me they will do and the way they will do it.

[douglas9401]

You seem to be redefining charisma.

[ToraToraTora]

"Labour will be in the wilderness for many years IMO under this man. " - You don't need the last 4 words me old china! I can't see real labour ever winning an election again. There have only been 3 labour leaders that have the charisma to win an election in 120 years, they are indeed a rare beast. I don't think the next one is going to be Steer Calmer.

[burlyshirley]

He can say what he likes really, we only have his word for it, don't we ?

[woofgang]

I think that if the government does change at the next election it won't be because the new party wins but because the conservatives lose and this will depend on the outcomes of the pandemic. Whatever anybody says, I don't think that any other Uk government would have done radically differently or had radically different outcomes.

[douglas9401]

....and Tora continues to rewrite history.

[ToraToraTora]

how am I rewriting history doug?

[ToraToraTora]

Ramsey MacDonald, Clement Atlee (*), Harold Wislon, end of.
* The only Labour leader I have admiration for.

[saintpeter48]

woofgang..... Saying you're going to do something and actually doing it are two different things, its fine promising the earth, its the delivery that counts, to me Starmer is Major in disguise, bore, bore, bore!

[ToraToraTora]

doug, I assume you support SNP, is that right?

[douglas9401]

We've done all this, move on.

[Apc2604]

All that Labour did during the early stages of covid is criticise, offering nothing constructive at all. They then voted in Starmer who I agree is a totally boring, uncharismatic man. As Woofy has said that shouldn't be held against him. But he simply has carried on criticising and then occasionally in a very patronising saying he is supporting what Boris is doing. I was never a conservative, until the Lib Dems put themselves out of the picture. I am a middle of the road person - but Starmer is not the man who will turn Labour into a viable opposition. I am totally fed up with all the criticism being targeted towards the government in the UK, whilst almost the whole of Europe is in the same boat. Mistakes have been made in all countries in what is a totally new situation. Easy to say what Labour would have done after the event.

[Old_Geezer]

According to the BBC he is to appeal to patriotism. A bit rich from a party who wanted us to remain in thrall to an external power.

[ToraToraTora]

Labour appeal to patriotism? PMSL! that's like getting Gary Glitter to appeal to parents!

[youngmafbog]

Sir Kier is only there to repair the Party he will never be a PM.

If he manages to get the Party singing together then a new more charismatic person (probably a woman) can be found who can win votes.

[dannyk13]

ymb//a new more charismatic person (probably a woman) can be found //
Not that sceeching haridan Angela Rayner.

[youngmafbog]

Gawd no!

[dannyk13]

She is Starmer's deputy at the moment.

[youngmafbog]

There is a long way to go Danny. I am not expecting her and Dodds to be around for a long time.

If, and its a fairly big if, he turns the Party round I would expect to see some young rising stars.

[Jackdaw33]

How about bringing back Rebecca Wrong Daily? Boris could do with a boost right now.