Ok Let's Do The Usual Dance.......

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/at-least-two-dead-and-several-injured-after-car-drives-into-pedestrians-in-southwest-germany-12148078
I say TROP did it........

[Zacs-Master]

And you just joined in, mozz. Dosey-do-yer-partner.

[naomi24]

Ichkeria, //…often turns out to be some home grown culprit with mental health issues…//

More often than not it is a jihadist and ‘home grown’ or otherwise is irrelevant.

[Theland]

Which is why we need a new category, '' Philosophy & Psychology.''
We drift into these areas, and lots of people!e have an interest, with many quite knowledgeable.

[mushroom25]

// This is the usual dance humorously sped up to make all the participants look like idiots. //

that never did Benny Hill any harm....

[Mozz71]

When in Rome, Zacs

[Zacs-Master]

Maybe they're so crazy they just think they're a jihadist? It's unusual to hear some official Jihadi source say 'yep he's one of us'.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - //
AH //… no-one actually has to do anything they don;t want to.//

No they don’t, but the guidance is there for anyone who chooses that option… which jihadists do. //

Does that mean that you now accept that Muslims can use the Koran as guidance?

That's a direct contradiction of what you said earlier!

[andy-hughes]

naomi - //
Ichkeria, //…often turns out to be some home grown culprit with mental health issues…//

More often than not it is a jihadist and ‘home grown’ or otherwise is irrelevant. //

Let's not the absence of evidence get in the way of us confirming our predjudices - shall we.

[naomi24]

Contradiction to what?

[naomi24]

AH, //Let's not the absence of evidence get in the way of us confirming our predjudices - shall we. //

I have no idea about your prejudices and I've no idea who this 'we' is you keep talking about - but when jihadists strike there isn't an absence of evidence.

[mushroom25]

// It's unusual to hear some official Jihadi source say 'yep he's one of us'. //

maybe not using such language, but it's not unusual for ISIL to claim responsibility for high profile attacks - such as Parson's Green and London Bridge (2017), Paris and Liege (2018), bombings in Sri Lanka (2019), Streatham earlier this year, etc etc

[Zacs-Master]

Watch your footing, Naomi. I can see some potential stumbles along the way ahead.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // ... but when jihadists strike there isn't an absence of evidence. //

Indeed there isn;t - but it has to be proved that it is jihadists first - otherwise your argument is going to collapse.

You may be right in your assumption, it may be a jihadist, but until proven,. it is just your assumption, and that is where your predjudices show - you want it to be a Muslim terrorist to shore up your endless arguments - the fact that it may not be remains to be seen, and at the time you and I are writing - no-one knows for sure.

[Zacs-Master]

Indeed. As I said previously; Maybe they're so crazy they just think they're a jihadist? It's unusual to hear some official Jihadi source say 'yep he's one of us'.

[naomi24]

AH, I've responded to other people's posts but I've made no assumptions. I've referred to this incident as 'the murders in Germany'.

[Zacs-Master]

Naomi, then why did you write 'Why people are so eager to distance these acts of terrorism from the source is beyond me'

What was the 'source' you were referring to?

[Sunk]

TTT,
// what and miss all the fun? I love watching the handwringers getting all in a lather as they desperately hope it won't be the fluffy bunny muslims //

I find your attitude very reprehensible.
People have been horribly killed including a young child. I notice you have no sympathy for the victims. Your first instinct was to exploit the tragic event for political point scoring.
Very sad, and quite horrible.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - // Contradiction to what? //

This -

At 16:01 you posted this -

//Zacs, these are not blanket instructions on the treatment of perceived enemies of the faithful - and therein lies the difference. //

Clearly your meaning is that the Koran is 'blanket instructions on how the faithful are to react to unbelievers - such as murder, terrorism and so on.

I picked you up at 16:05, but you chose not to respond - a trick you often use when you have no proper answer to offer.

I said this - // Zacs, these are not blanket instructions on the treatment of perceived enemies of the faithful - and therein lies the difference. //

But interpretation - that gold-plated Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free Card available to all followers of all faiths, means that no-one actually has to do anything they don;t want to.

Theland constantly reminds us of Man's 'free will' - well there it is in action.

You can't have it all ways. //

I beleive that interpretation is available for Muslims just as much as Christians, contrary to what you advised. I said as much -

// ... no-one actually has to do anything they don;t want to.//

And your response is -

// No they don’t, but the guidance is there for anyone who chooses that option… which jihadists do. //

Now it appears that 'guidance', not instruction is the format of the Koran, which is not what you said at 16:01.

I haven't changed my view in less that an hour - care to explain why you have - since you slid past my previous argument about what you said.

I hope you won't slide past this one, or refer to my 'nonsense' again - people will think you don't actually remember what you have said, or that you think you can contradict youreself and no-one will notice.

[Mozz71]

//Very sad, and quite horrible.//

And yet thoroughly predictable.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - //
AH, I've responded to other people's posts but I've made no assumptions. I've referred to this incident as 'the murders in Germany'. //

This wanl;t you then?

// More often than not it is a jihadist and ‘home grown’ or otherwise is irrelevant. //

You do know what the word 'assumption' means, dont you?