Is South Africa Following Rhodesia Down The Pan?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-57818215

[Khandro]

Good article here:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/south-africa-riots-jacob-zuma

[Peter Pedant]

speccie is a 3 min read
does it say anything we dont know?

Mandela was Good but not very good at being pres
Mbeki was pretty awful but had effective ( not 'able') minions
Zuma was corrupt and everyone knew it
Ramaphosa is rich before hand and doesnt need to be richer
conclude: that is how it is

a few Abers here are crypto-jaapies and have told us better how it is - country deteermined to render itself an economic basket case like the ones up north

[ToraToraTora]

wow thanks playbill, BA, that's a great insight, it's like something out of a dystopian sci fi movie.

[Peter Pedant]

the only reason I go is the weather
go to Darzet aaaargh
or skeggie

you are more likely to come back

[Peter Pedant]

dystopian sci fi movie
er like - - - District 9

( NOT Banlieue 12 - which is another one set in France)

[Zacs-Master]

I was in Port Elizabeth last March and there were minibuses full of ‘yoot’ just cruising around shouting at people. Went to a small shopping mall and got hassled by some more kids on the way in and out. The place we stayed (just for one night) had steel gates / CCTV / coded locks. It wasn’t a nice place to be. The shanty towns on the outskirts of Cape Town were sprawling and squalid. The ‘us’ and ‘them’ situation was clearly evident.

[ToraToraTora]

fender: "talking with some some people who lived in south africa have said to me, is was better under apartheid, law and order and prosperous. " - well we dare not say that these days but I think it's probably true.