Next Domino?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1454889/Brexit-news-michel-barnier-eu-states-leave-uk-latest-france
....is the EUSSR starting to self distruct?

[Gromit]

ToraToraTora
Mon 13th Mar 2017
// There won't be an EU mate, the whole sorry edifice will come crashing down around your ears! //

Except it didn’t. And it won’t.

[jno]

https://kafkadesk.org/2020/03/31/whats-in-a-name-understanding-the-czech-republic-vs-czechia-debate/

[jno]

ah, misty-eyed nostalgists yearning to return to the good old days of 1938...

[ToraToraTora]

10:53, still time once they pass the hat round to replace our dues.

[naomi24]

10:55 Sat, sick.

[ToraToraTora]

10:55, looks like the anti British are getting desperate.

[THECORBYLOON]

As of this year, there's £25 billion owing to the EU so the UK is contributing still.

[Mozz71]

Not quite sure how anything to do with other countries leaving an organisation that the UK isn't a part of can be anti-British, but don't let that stand in the way of your usual schtick.

[ToraToraTora]

mozz: "Not quite sure how anything to do with other countries leaving an organisation that the UK isn't a part of can be anti-British, but don't let that stand in the way of your usual schtick. " - really? How do you interpret this statement from jno?
"ah, misty-eyed nostalgists yearning to return to the good old days of 1938... "

[Mozz71]

I took that as an insinuation that you'd rather be at war with Europe than allied with them. Maybe jno would care to clarify?

[ToraToraTora]

I would rather be allied with Europe and we are. The current issue are just bickering because we left their club. They'll get over it. The EUSSR is an insidious creeping empire that needs to be stopped. The countries of Europe should scrap the EUSSR and start again with something more akin to trading agreements and cooperation.

[dannyk13]

TTT // start again with something more akin to trading agreements and cooperation.//
As it was in the beginning.

[tamborine]

11.06 Owing & paying are 2 different things.

Not only were UK the highest investors after Germany in EU but we also sacrificed our fish to EU.

[Mozz71]

If it's trade and co-operation you want (and I agree with that sentiment) you might want to stop rubbishing out European allies at every available opportunity. It doesn't show a desire for friendship, just one of constant antagonism.

[jno]

TTT, the EU was formed, with the agreement of the Germans themselves, precisely to stop France and Germany going to war again as they had done three times in less than a century, by tying German industry and French agriculture together.

This has worked.

Care to explain what you think will happen if they're untied again - as they were in 1938?

[ichkeria]

Croatia might be Croaxit.
Tho that sounds more like the UK just now :-)

[ToraToraTora]

mozz: "If it's trade and co-operation you want (and I agree with that sentiment) you might want to stop rubbishing out European allies at every available opportunity. It doesn't show a desire for friendship, just one of constant antagonism. " - it's the EUSSR I hate not the individual countries, yes I know I take the peace out of France but that's more akin to the way the home nations rib each other. I have been to most of the EUSSR countries and had a great time, I've played rugby, worked in their banks and on tech projects. I just don't like what is happening to them and they don't seem to see it.

[ToraToraTora]

jno: "TTT, the EU was formed, with the agreement of the Germans themselves, precisely to stop France and Germany going to war again as they had done three times in less than a century, by tying German industry and French agriculture together.

This has worked. " - fair enough but surely they don't need to federalise to do that.

[ToraToraTora]

jno: "Care to explain what you think will happen if they're untied again - as they were in 1938? " - well do you think that they'll instantly kick off again? They can still have agreements, treaties, gawd knows what but none of that means that the EUSSR in it's current form is needed.

[sevenOP]

jno: "Care to explain what you think will happen if they're untied again - as they were in 1938?"

I don't buy that narrative jno. i.e. War again IF untied.
The rogue raider era completely ended -vikings, goths, huns etc - , then the ~200 years of 'christian' religious wars in Europe completely ended, the major powers in Europe warsWW 1 and WW11 -completely ended...
and I reckon major wars between a nuclear weapon holding country and an-other are gone (so Fr Vs Germany a no no)

Possible deviant is 'American Exceptionalism' naturally...